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Originally Posted by clavis

When you put it into percentage form it leads to a false conclusion being drawn by those that don't understand it's based off dice. They see only the % and think oh I can't miss, or I can't hit.

That is their own fault then. If a weather report says there is a 90% chance of rain, that still means that there is a 10% chance that it does not rain. So it not raining, is still a possibility.
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Which means in this case the % is a lie.

It isn't a lie, that is how probability works.
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Which means in this case the % is a lie.

In the case of % on actual dice I personally rolling with disadvantage rolled 3 20's, an 18, a 17, the rest of my 30 or so odd rolls were all with modifiers added under 12 by going with percentage I should of been able to pass those skill checks at least 50% of the time, I failed every single one. My dm can barely hit any party member including the ones who have an AC of 12, yet can hit my AC 18 cleric/fighter nearly every time. He is known for his horrible rolls in every game he plays, his wife on the other hand I have yet seen fail. She has repeatedly rolled natural 20's in a roll. A guy on youtube Will Weaton has literally the worst luck on rolling, the call it the Weaton Curse. So in placing a % when it comes to dice it leads to false belief, and false beliefs are a lie. Far simpler to show the AC of the creature.

I much prefer showing percentages, in fact, if it did not show percentages, I would manually convert it to percentages myself, because for anyone who thinks mathematically its easier to work with. Furthermore, if you open the combat log and hover over the action resolution, it displays the dice rolls there for you.

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Originally Posted by clavis

When you put it into percentage form it leads to a false conclusion being drawn by those that don't understand it's based off dice. They see only the % and think oh I can't miss, or I can't hit.

That is their own fault then. If a weather report says there is a 90% chance of rain, that still means that there is a 10% chance that it does not rain. So it not raining, is still a possibility.
Originally Posted by clavis

Which means in this case the % is a lie.

It isn't a lie, that is how probability works.
Originally Posted by clavis

Which means in this case the % is a lie.

In the case of % on actual dice I personally rolling with disadvantage rolled 3 20's, an 18, a 17, the rest of my 30 or so odd rolls were all with modifiers added under 12 by going with percentage I should of been able to pass those skill checks at least 50% of the time, I failed every single one. My dm can barely hit any party member including the ones who have an AC of 12, yet can hit my AC 18 cleric/fighter nearly every time. He is known for his horrible rolls in every game he plays, his wife on the other hand I have yet seen fail. She has repeatedly rolled natural 20's in a roll. A guy on youtube Will Weaton has literally the worst luck on rolling, the call it the Weaton Curse. So in placing a % when it comes to dice it leads to false belief, and false beliefs are a lie. Far simpler to show the AC of the creature.

I much prefer showing percentages, in fact, if it did not show percentages, I would manually convert it to percentages myself, because for anyone who thinks mathematically its easier to work with. Furthermore, if you open the combat log and hover over the action resolution, it displays the dice rolls there for you.


I've noticed on forum most people don't know about that combat log, and I'll give you the fact that thats how your mind, and some others work. Most people though not so much, so it would be easier because your already thinking in percentage, and can to switch. Then lets say a person that has never played a D&D game and isn't a math whizz. They just see that percentage, and think oh I can't miss. Nor can they do the math to figure out how many times must they roll to get what they need. So they bash their head into the proverbable (blah good at math bullshit on spelling) wall, and end up raging.

yet if you show the AC and what you roll right up front they'll better understand it, then hiding the information in an admittedly tiny ass pop up window that is easily overlooked.

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Also out of curiousity how does the fact ones will never hit skew the percentage? Where if it was simply a normal one there would still albiet low percentage to actually hit. In the case of d&d you'll never hit on a one, and the opposite is true for the 20, and sometimes 19 being that you'll always hit?

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Originally Posted by clavis
Also out of curiousity how does the fact ones will never hit skew the percentage? Where if it was simply a normal one there would still albiet low percentage to actually hit. In the case of d&d you'll never hit on a one, and the opposite is true for the 20, and sometimes 19 being that you'll always hit?


In any situation where Attack Bonuses - AC is between -19 and +19, nothing changes and in the situations where it is less than -19 you treat it as if it is at -19, while in the situations where it is greater than 19 you treat it as if it was at 19.

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Not sure how this changed from buying gear to percdntage vs AC but ok...

You always have 5% chance to miss (roll of 1) but the propability of dice rolls can be directly translated to percentages chance of succes.

If someone sees a high percentage chance to succeed and then fails he isent in the right when he complains that the result is wrong... You were likely to hit or succeed at that skill roll or attack but it wasent a guarrantee. Any dnd player can tell you that even with almost guarranteed chances of succes, the dice will fuck with you 😂

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Originally Posted by Demoulius

You always have 5% chance to miss (roll of 1) but the propability of dice rolls can be directly translated to percentages chance of succes.

Say this to my warrior 95% mean he will miss *hoofpalm*

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Like in warhammer 40k with 2+ armour saves (on a d6)

Ha! 5 wounda you say? Il paas them on anything but a 1!
*rolls 5 1's*
*while removing the squad* well, so much for all that armour...

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