Larian Studios Forums Baldur's Gate III Baldur's Gate III - General Shadows of Amn/Throne of Bhaal continuity

WotC owns all of it, BioWare own nothing. Wizards already has used Minsc in other products, including comic books and some time waster game named Idle Champions or something.

And there was an NPC named Abdel in the large warehouse where the gatewarden of Candlekeep trains you if you let him.

The Neverwinter MMORPG eventually got Minsc and Boo. Why is it impossible?

Well. just because they've used doesn't mean the IP of that character automatically belongs to them, they could simply have agreed with BioWare first. And I find it disturbing if a game studio will be allowed to use the D&D setting and trademark but that all their intellectual property such characters and story line, things they created and designed themselves would afterwards fall into ownership of WoTC. But I guess that's a plausible contract clause put in to secure WoTC's possibilty to expand or use that IP in future products.

Abdel is hated as much as Abby from The Last Of Us 2. WotC just used him and Viekang to bring Bhaal back from the dead. Canonically there's no way that would work if Abdel was the Bhaalspawn who defeated Amelyssan, because in order to remain mortal, he would have to allow the Solar to take his portion of Bhaal's essence to Mt. Celestia. I heard that even though Bhaal is back, he is not at full strength. Maybe it is because Gorion's Ward and Imoen's portions of his essence are still in Mt Celestia.

Minor spoiler: Minsc and Boo got turned into stone statues and they stayed that way until 1488 DR.

If it isn’t contradicted in the game, I’m going to headcanon that Alumyr died peacefully in his sleep, and even though he had given up the taint, his soul was acting as a lock that barred Bhaal from returning. After he died, Bhaal just remanifested in the world.

Don’t mess with my headcanon, Larian!

Murder in Baldur's Gate essentially finishes the story of BG1+2, with the final Baal spawn being killed off (no, it's not Abdel/Gorion's Ward ;)), and the God of Murder being reborn... it's an ok module, all things considered... a bit low level for the supposed gravitas of the subject matter.

Descent into Avernus I haven't played either, but judging for the EA alone, Larian is at least changing some of it...

I understand that this adventure module from 4e deals with the 'canon' Ward, Abdel Adrian, and Bhaal continuity, but I don't know how closely they (Larian/WotC) plan to cleave to the little known Abdel canon, similarly to how the novelizations for the games never influenced the games themselves. This is more or less the question I was asking with this thread. How many of these continuity questions have they really broached, answered or evaded?

I haven't played Descent into Avernus either, but Justin Alexander does a pretty deep dive into the module, and the print continuity around such things as Elturgard, Avernus and Zariel etc. which might as well make anyone who reads it an expert, but it seems pretty typical of what you would expect from a story by committee trying to make a easy-to-play campaign. Which is why I think it will be pretty different in BG:3, likely roping in the Mind-Flayers and the Githyanki.

There is a problem with your headcanon. Bhaal remanifested after the death of Viekang and Abdel, and the murders conducted by Entar Silvershield's great grandson Torlin Silvershield, who was the herald of Bhaal's return. Viekang and Abdel were the last two children of Bhaal who still had his essence in their bodies. There is no way your Alumyr, or my human Fighter Ralis, or any other player's custom Gorion's Ward can act as a lock that keeps Bhaal from returning. Every children of Bhaal were used as a vessel to hold Bhaal's essence. Generally when they die, their bodies quickly turn into ash because of Bhaal's essence leaving them.

That will only contradict my headcanon if any of it is actually mentioned in BG3. If it isn’t, I’m in the clear.