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Shadowheart logic problem #698144 14/10/20 11:53 PM
Joined: Oct 2020 A ArmouredHedgehog OP enthusiast
OP ArmouredHedgehog enthusiast A Joined: Oct 2020	Is it just me or is there a logical inconsistency with Shadowheart? Some time into the game after gaining a bit of her trust she reveals one of her secrets. She is a cleric of Shar. So where is the problem? 1.Her armor identifies her as a likely follower of Shar. 2. Her reactions to everything that has to do with Selune in combination with 1. It seems that she has been captured by the mindflayers while conducting a secret mission to steal a githyanki artefact. It is somewhat llike someone trying to avoid any suspicions of being a communist by parading in a Karl Marx fan T-shirt Greetings from Germany to the other planes Last edited by ArmouredHedgehog; 14/10/20 11:53 PM. I sometimes use thought experiments. I don't necessarily believe in every idea I post for discussion on this forum

Re: Shadowheart logic problem ArmouredHedgehog #698152 14/10/20 11:57 PM
Joined: Oct 2020 Renaire apprentice
Renaire apprentice Joined: Oct 2020	You could say the same about Astarion. I was shocked that him being a vampire, given how he looks, was somehow an unexpected plot twist.

Re: Shadowheart logic problem ArmouredHedgehog #698161 15/10/20 12:00 AM
Joined: Oct 2020 Orbax old hand
Orbax old hand Joined: Oct 2020	Originally Posted by ArmouredHedgehog Is it just me or is there a logical inconsistency with Shadowheart? Some time into the game after gaining a bit of her trust she reveals one of her secrets. She is a cleric of Shar. So where is the problem? 1.Her armor identifies her as a likely follower of Shar. 2. Her reactions to everything that has to do with Selune in combination with 1. It seems that she has been captured by the mindflayers while conducting a secret mission to steal a githyanki artefact. It is somewhat llike someone trying to avoid any suspicions of being a communist by parading in a Karl Marx fan T-shirt Greetings from Germany to the other planes It looks like an infernal puzzle box. Normally its DC25 INT to figure out how to open it or you take something like 35 psychic damage on fail. Inside are the contracts between devils and others. Now, I am not sure about the destruction of these things in this game compared to D&D, but if the gith are looking for it they are bound by contract to Tiamat, one of the former Archdukes of Avernus until Asmodeus demoted her and put Bel in her place (who was then replaced by Zariel). I dont think the gith want to destroy it - i think they want to get it back so it isn't broken so they can keep their dragons. Last edited by Orbax; 15/10/20 12:01 AM. What is the problem you are solving? Does your proposed change solve the problem? Is your change feasible? What else will be affected by your change? Will your change impact revenue? Does your change align with the goals and strategies of the organizations (Larian, WotC)?

Re: Shadowheart logic problem ArmouredHedgehog #698196 15/10/20 12:12 AM
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Some_Twerp753 enthusiast S Joined: Oct 2020	IIRC an int/arcana check says the runes are githyanki though?

Re: Shadowheart logic problem Orbax #698199 15/10/20 12:14 AM
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OP ArmouredHedgehog enthusiast A Joined: Oct 2020	I was not referring to the githyanki artefact as being a logical problem. Your theory about it is similar to what I thought. If it is an infernal contract involving the dragons or the power of Vlaakith a full military mobilization for the search could be coming. I sometimes use thought experiments. I don't necessarily believe in every idea I post for discussion on this forum

Re: Shadowheart logic problem Some_Twerp753 #698203 15/10/20 12:15 AM
Joined: Oct 2020 Orbax old hand
Orbax old hand Joined: Oct 2020	Originally Posted by Some_Twerp753 IIRC an int/arcana check says the runes are githyanki though? Its iron and has pulsating runes on it with something inside. Im guessing its infernal iron (black) with a contract in there. Either that or im way off and it holds a mindflayer tadpole that they can control or somethin haha. Looks like a puzzle box though. But all I have is a hammer on that one so it looks like a nail What is the problem you are solving? Does your proposed change solve the problem? Is your change feasible? What else will be affected by your change? Will your change impact revenue? Does your change align with the goals and strategies of the organizations (Larian, WotC)?

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