I think having too many sources to abuse shove can actually be an oversight in this case. Anyone who thinks buffing cantrips even more is a good idea clearly doesn't know anything about balance in videogames. I'm more on the side that they should go easy on the million barrels, throwables and arrows instead of removing the surface effect entirely. There are MANY spells that can get this surface effects too. Hell, even Dragonborn has multiflavored breath in 5e so it's gonna be the Lizards all over again but with different damage types.

Last edited by JDCrenton; 15/10/20 02:51 AM.