Originally Posted by dunehunter
Originally Posted by Sunfly
I don't know if it really makes sense to call shove op when Warlocks get infinite ranged shoves, Battle Masters get a limited but still generous amount of ranged shoves, and shove arrows are a thing. Even if sparing the action isn't hard by itself you still have to at least be in melee range to do the regular bonus action shove.


EB is an action, Battlemaster shove is an action, Shove is a bonus action, see the difference here?

I do but it hardly seems like a meaningful one. The Battle Mastee still gets their regular bonus damage so it's no different than what they were going to do anyway most likely, warlock should be spamming blasts so that's hardly an action sacrifice, and the same goes for arrows. Shove at least costs an offhand attack if you're a dual wielder.

Last edited by Sunfly; 15/10/20 11:44 AM.