So I just watched sin tee on youtube a few minutes ago, and he pushed a minotaur off the cliff to die with 100% success chance. As a warlock with 8 STR... Like, I know shoving is already stupidly overpowered in this game, but you're telling me we can have small/medium creatures shove large creatures with no disadvantage, while having a negative STR modifier as well? Lol

First of all, shoving in any case should be the aggresors athletics vs the defenders athletics or acrobatics (whichever is best). Agressor would gain advantage if their size class is larger, disadvantage if smaller, and can only attempt to shove targets 1 size class larger.

Second, shoving should not push enemies 15-20 ft away. It should be to knock them prone in the same spot, or 5' away if desired.

I will admit it's hilarious to shove a creature half a mile away, but it really breaks any immersion I have in the game as soon as this happens lol


Last edited by Carnage11334; 15/10/20 04:24 PM.