Originally Posted by SilverSaint
Originally Posted by DumbleDorf
Originally Posted by SilverSaint
Originally Posted by DumbleDorf
Right now you can sneak through the whole goblin village and 1 shot everything with a colossal hunter ranger lul.

Even after getting caught, you pick one enemy off each turn without even needing the rest of your group.

Anything under 15 hp is 1 shotable. Add dip and the +1 crossbow for enemies over 12 HP.

Could be worth making use of all those bonus effect arrows too for enemies up to 20 HP.

Rogue can do the same thing.

Sneak attack does also keep up with hunters mark+cs, particularly at higher levels, by the by-though the way they implemented it means that it only ever does damage in multiples of 2 (they multiple the dice roll by a formula for character level instead of rolling more dice).


No it doesnt, I've tried both. Rogue's sneak attack is significantly less than the Ranger's Colossal Slayer, as well as Colossal Slayer always working, and Sneak Attack not working when enemies are not surprised.

Rogues can only use Light Crossbows / Longbows with racial proficiency that deal 1d8, and the sneak damage initially in just 1D6. Rangers are getting 1D10 from Heavy Crossbow, 1D8 from Colossal Slayer, and 1D6 from Hunters Mark. This is all fine on enemies that are not at max HP as that way you have to enter combat first by hitting them once, but colossal slayer should not be applying damage to full HP enemies allowing this much ease at picking them off while they still have full HP.

This is factually incorrect. Sneak attack does 2d6 starting at level 3, when colossus slayer comes online. Sneak attack is better.

1d10 +1d8 vs 3d6 favors the d6 significantly, with an even greater increase in damage if you are also using a light crossbow. And yes, it is calculating this damage correctly for sneak attack.

If you also hunters mark you can, indeed, hit higher numbers with a ranger, but you have to be doing both to compare.


Maybe actually try it ingame rather than theorycrafting. Rangers with colossal slayer 1 shot <15hp enemies about 90% of the time, rogues manage to less than 50% of the time both at level 4. Ive tried the exact same thing with both in the Goblin camp and the results are consistent.

Last edited by DumbleDorf; 21/10/20 03:42 AM.