Originally Posted by Aurgelmir
Originally Posted by NoLoGo
Originally Posted by Aurgelmir
I disagree. DnD can be a very tactical game. But I don't think a 1 to 1 is going to make it the perfect game.
I'd like to see some rules adhere to DnD better though, but I don't mind the surfaces etc as much as others (although some spells gets a little too powerful right now because of it).

I like the current advantage system, that adds stratagy, but every class having "cunning actions" takes away from the rogue and makes things a little too easy.

Surfaces are a great example of an interesting mechanic added to the dull DnD System. And i agree - Advantage and Light are 2 good mechanics that actually come from the core rules.
But just to show the point im trying to make a bit more...

Core DnD does not consider positioning. No flanking, no "backstabs" in the literal sense. Thats horrible for tactical combat. The only thing core rules DnD cares about is adjacent allies - and for pen and paper that is totally fine because it simplifies combat and in pen and paper not everyone runs maps and figures. But here the game is literally you being a "figure on a map"



In that case I kinda agree with you. I don't mind surfaces, but when an oil barrel and firebolt = Fireball at lvl 2, then it's an issue of balance too. But I think it comes down to how it all interacts and the numbers.

Heck there are rules for surfaces etc too in DnD, I think people just don't play enough with it.


There technically are rules for surfaces but all the things that make surfaces interesting here - like "dipping" and "surface combos" are not. Like i said the Core DnD is just super basic. Stand next to your buddy climb on the hill - gg - every time same thing for optimal play. All that is interesting is comes from player initiative (not the roll).

And @Fireballs being op - as mentioned in my opening post. DnD is poorly balanced (i had specifically fireball in mind for this as it is THE main offender and the most known). Fireball has been op as long as the system exists. Its what every mage does every combat every time if it doesnt melt their own face off as well (and sometimes even then). Its just an op spell. There are others that are effectively like this but i think fireball is the one absolutely everyone knows.

Last edited by NoLoGo; 21/10/20 07:49 AM.