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old hand
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I don't know how vampirism is transmitted in Dungeons and Dragons, but as a rule it happens through a bite. The question is, is there a danger for our main character to turn into a vampire?
Thanks to Larian for Baldurs Gate 3 and the reaction to player feedback
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veteran
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Astarion isn’t a vampire, he is a vampire spawn, so no.
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old hand
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Joined: Oct 2020
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Astarion isn’t a vampire, he is a vampire spawn, so no. Thanks for the answer. Another question arises - what will Astarion do when we remove the tadpole from his head? How this will be implemented in the game, I cannot imagine. Most likely, he will be against the cure, and will stay with him until the end of the game, because we cannot move around the world only at night
Thanks to Larian for Baldurs Gate 3 and the reaction to player feedback
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enthusiast
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Joined: Oct 2020
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I am not sure about the not a vampire thing When sailing towards the moonrise towers the narration mentions that the player character feels a lust for blood. I am not sure it that happens anyway or only for those who let Astarion feed. In his dream Astarion is tempted to try drinking the blood of a humanoid, something his master forbid him to do. If the player is not Astarion that is the main reason Astarion tries to do that on him. He is testing his freedom.
Last edited by ArmouredHedgehog; 21/10/20 04:17 AM.
I sometimes use thought experiments. I don't necessarily believe in every idea I post for discussion on this forum
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journeyman
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Joined: Oct 2020
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Weeell, he can't turn us into a vampire yet. Step 1: Hunt down Casador. Step 2: Beat Casador ( almost) to death. Step 3: Allow Astarion to drink Casador's blood. Step 4: Kill Casador. Astarion is now a) free, b) a full vampire with all the bonuses a full vampire gets & c) he has the ability to turn the player into a vampire (spawn). Drink Astarion's blood to become a full vampire. Step 5: Profit? Now whether or not they implement this in the finished version (or leave it to the modders ![wink wink](/images/graemlins/default_dark/wink.gif) ) is another question.
Last edited by Neleothesze; 21/10/20 05:41 AM.
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Weeell, he can't turn us into a vampire yet. Step 1: Hunt down Casador. Step 2: Beat Casador ( almost) to death. Step 3: Allow Astarion to drink Casador's blood. Step 4: Kill Casador. Astarion is now a) free, b) a full vampire with all the bonuses a full vampire gets & c) he has the ability to turn the player into a vampire (spawn). Drink Astarion's blood to become a full vampire. Step 5: Profit? Now whether or not they implement this in the finished version (or leave it to the modders ![wink wink](/images/graemlins/default_dark/wink.gif) ) is another question. I could see this being a potential outcome along with just killing Cazador without Astarion drinking his blood to become a full vamp. I don't think he'll be able to turn the player though. Swen has said that, currently, the only way a player can play as a Vampire spawn is with the Astarion origin.
Last edited by pinklily; 21/10/20 05:47 AM.
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If you're friends with Astarion I doubt he would want to turn you into a vampire anyway.
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veteran
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Weeell, he can't turn us into a vampire yet. Step 1: Hunt down Casador. Step 2: Beat Casador ( almost) to death. Step 3: Allow Astarion to drink Casador's blood. Step 4: Kill Casador. Astarion is now a) free, b) a full vampire with all the bonuses a full vampire gets & c) he has the ability to turn the player into a vampire (spawn). Drink Astarion's blood to become a full vampire. Step 5: Profit? Now whether or not they implement this in the finished version (or leave it to the modders ![wink wink](/images/graemlins/default_dark/wink.gif) ) is another question. I suppose that if they will it will come with romancing Astarion
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I am not sure about the not a vampire thing When sailing towards the moonrise towers the narration mentions that the player character feels a lust for blood. I am not sure it that happens anyway or only for those who let Astarion feed. In his dream Astarion is tempted to try drinking the blood of a humanoid, something his master forbid him to do. If the player is not Astarion that is the main reason Astarion tries to do that on him. He is testing his freedom.
I think the lust for blood is the Absolute affliction, not because Astatrion bit you. It's not that you want to drink blood, but you want blood to spill.
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It doesn't have to change gameplay at all. It could be a potential ending.
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Well ... Maybe im wrong, but i bet Astarion tells me that Vampires are made by Vampire drinking someone's blood ... So ... if that is so simple, you probably should be turning into Vampire if you allow him to drink from you ... But there is that tadpole thing, maybe that will block all other metamorphosis out. :-/
What i wonder more, is consequences for this ... Since in the same sentence Astarion tells you that when this happens, the young Vampire is just a puppet for older one. And he can be freed just by drinking his master's blood ... wich dont happen often, since no Vampire need competition. And i bet that "no Vampire" part includes Astarion as well. :3
I still dont understand why cant we change Race for our hirelings. ![frown frown](/images/graemlins/default_dark/frown.gif) Lets us play Githyanki as racist as they trully are!
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journeyman
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He's not a full vampire so no...
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Cleric of Innuendo
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The thread title reminds me of that famous (and probably apocryphal) piece of graffiti:
"My mother made me a homosexual" ... "If I give her the wool, will she make one for me?"
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stranger
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If you're friends with Astarion I doubt he would want to turn you into a vampire anyway. He can turn player into a spawn... And this can end the friendship =)
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It doesn't have to change gameplay at all. It could be a potential ending. I was thinking that could be a possibility. Perhaps there's a bad ending where he makes you his first vampire spawn ofter he becomes a full vampire (after promising to do the same for you.) Or, if you had maxed out approval with him he makes you a full vampire for murdery adventures together. Epilogue stuff.
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Everyone here is talking about Astarion making us a vampire and here I am waiting to turn him in to Cazador so he lets his guard down, I can drink his blood and then kill him to become a full vampire.
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apprentice
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Bueno en realidad su primer entrevista dijeron la posibilidad imagino al terminar el juego Astarion podrá tomar la sangre de su creador , recuerden primer entrevista dijieron tendrá superar una prueba para no maten los miembros de tu grupo o convierta engendros , me muero por encontrar a cazador ver que sucedera.
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Spawn cannot create other spawn or other vampires.
Full vampires don't really just HAPPEN in D&D. Full vampires come from some REALLY nasty pacts that involve some outright horrific evil acts. We're not talking the average warlock deal here. A warlock can make a deal with a vampire to become an Undying Warlock and not turn evil. But the sort of acts that you have to take to become a vampire is some seriously twisted stuff. I imagine the act of a spawn drinking a vampire master's blood isn't so straight forward as that either. I suspect that also comes with, at some point, the spawn being fine with becoming a ravening evil predator that will enslave others as a matter of course.
A free spawn by comparison is a victim of circumstance. I'm not going to call them evil because they were transformed and mind controlled for X period of time. And if their master dies without them taking the next step then they're heavily cursed/transformed, so they'll have a bad time....but they're not going to go about making new vamps (because they can't). If they can control themselves, I'm fine with it.
But true vampires? To get there, you have to willfully choose to be a twisted, sadistic, villainous, toxic jerk.
I'm normally all about playing heroic versions of evil things....so heroic vampire is a fun concept for me. And I'd be willing to play a heroic spawn if there were good rules for it (more likely to just play a heroic undying warlock). But D&D vampires aren't victims of circumstance or born into it....so they're on the list of things to kill really fast.
Last edited by Thrythlind; 23/10/20 05:01 AM.
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