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stranger
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Joined: Oct 2020
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Can we please have some weapons aside from daggers worn on the side? Axes and rapiers worn on the back looks ridiculous. Drawing a rapier/longsword/greatsword/etc from the back is not even physicaly possible without some wierd very specialized modern scabbard.
Last edited by Hjarl; 21/10/20 03:03 PM.
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Joined: Oct 2020
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Um.. I mean... the models are kinda long to not have on the back, at least for the longsword and greatsword, especially. The longswords in this game look more like hand-and-a-halfers so they are longer, and the last thing I would want to look at is the end of my weapon glitching into the dirt. That seems more ridiculous to me than having it on the back. As far as "modern scabbards" go, like.. not.. really? Take a look at The Witcher for back-mounted sword scabbards that are very physically possible to draw from.
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old hand
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old hand
Joined: Oct 2020
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I'm sorry, but what? When I was doing Renaissance fairs, I would sometimes carry a great sword, on my back. It hung on what amounts to a drying rack right at the base of my neck, attached to my shoulders with a very basic strap. How tall would one have to be to have a great sword attached at their hip and not be dragging it on the ground all the time? It doesn't take modern tech to be able to do this, I made my strap/hook with hand tools in my basement. It took longer to go to the store and get the materials than it took to make.
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Joined: Oct 2020
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Not only that but they also stand in the air.
How hard is it for a company that charges 60 dollars for their EA game and not building proper weapon sheets being attached to the belt?
And don' forget shields. Shields just magically appear on your off hand.
Last edited by sinogy; 21/10/20 03:35 PM.
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stranger
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Joined: Oct 2020
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Geralts sword+ scabbard in the netflix series is very specialized. And you are right, they work fine for drawing from the back. However. The steel/silver sword and scabbard from fx. Witcher 3 wildhunt computer game can absolutely NOT be drawn easily from the back. I own a steelsword+scabbard replica and tried to make it work. It does not  Edit: Im not saying all weapons should be worn on the side. But right now its pretty much the other way around, which is just as silly as a greatsword in a side-scabbard 
Last edited by Hjarl; 21/10/20 03:42 PM.
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old hand
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old hand
Joined: Oct 2020
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Keep practicing mate, you'll get it. I think it was Shadiversity on Youtube that said swords couldn't be drawn from the back at all, and he had to correct himself.
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addict
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Joined: Oct 2020
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Rapiers, short swords, scimitars, maces, warhammers, handaxes and clubs should definitely be worn on the hip like the dagger. Greatswords, longswords, greataxes, polearms, etc I'm fine with placing them on your back.
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stranger
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Joined: Oct 2020
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Keep practicing mate, you'll get it. I think it was Shadiversity on Youtube that said swords couldn't be drawn from the back at all, and he had to correct himself. Its not a practice issue. The scabbard is not made for backdraw. Hince it doesnt work. Backdraw needs a specialized scarbbard, like i said in my op 
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old hand
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old hand
Joined: Oct 2020
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Keep practicing mate, you'll get it. I think it was Shadiversity on Youtube that said swords couldn't be drawn from the back at all, and he had to correct himself. Its not a practice issue. The scabbard is not made for backdraw. Hince it doesnt work. Backdraw needs a specialized scarbbard, like i said in my op  True, but you also said in your op that they couldn't be made w/out modern tech.
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old hand
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old hand
Joined: Oct 2020
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Think Shad said that back scabbard was more comfortable for 'on the road' but would be abit more ungainly if you need to draw it really quikly.
On the other hand, we are playing in a fantasy setting where practicing to draw your sword really quikly sounds like a very big advantage to have as a skill and people got the time to do it....
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Cleric of Innuendo
Joined: Oct 2020
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Um.. I mean... the models are kinda long to not have on the back, at least for the longsword and greatsword, especially. The longswords in this game look more like hand-and-a-halfers so they are longer, and the last thing I would want to look at is the end of my weapon glitching into the dirt. A longsword IS an half-and-a-half sword in 5e (and in most historical interpretations of the term in real life). The longsword was designed to be a two-handed weapon that could be used one-handed if required, such as whilst on horseback. A 'bastard sword' was actually shorter than a longsword in real life, being somewhere between a longsword and an arming sword. The arming sword was the one-handed weapon carried by foot troops, and is probably what the old AD&D broadsword or longsword were closer to. A longsword was around 4 foot long (obviously designed varied somewhat), so the BG3 ones might be a little bit on the long side, but only by inches.
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I don't even care that much about the realism/practicality of back scabbards, they are already a massive improvement over the major cardinal sin that is having NAKED weapons floating mid-air glued to your back.
Last edited by Tuco; 21/10/20 04:01 PM.
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Cleric of Innuendo
Joined: Oct 2020
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The problem of glitching on clothing for waist scabbards can easily be applied to back scabbards. The weapons can glitch on hair and cloaks.
In any case, I'd prefer a few graphical glitches to having weapons slung on the back.
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stranger
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Joined: Oct 2020
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Keep practicing mate, you'll get it. I think it was Shadiversity on Youtube that said swords couldn't be drawn from the back at all, and he had to correct himself. Its not a practice issue. The scabbard is not made for backdraw. Hince it doesnt work. Backdraw needs a specialized scarbbard, like i said in my op  True, but you also said in your op that they couldn't be made w/out modern tech. No i didnt? I think you read that into it  I say nothing about how they are made, tools materials etc. They (back-scabbards) are however a modern invention. DnD and Witcher are fantasy and has very littel to do with history, so thats totaly fine. All im saying is that its modern invention special equipment (that could be made with medieval style tools and tech).
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I don't even care that much about the realism/practicality of back scabbards, they are already a massive improvement over the major cardinal sin that is having NAKED weapons floating mid-air glued to your back. As I already said: Larian's is trying to make Dragon Age Origins 2, not BG3... 
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