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Honestly? If anything I think we need companions with the aesthetic of do-gooding more than we need them to be nice folks.

For a world with as diverse and vibrant as the forgotten realms, we're definitely seeing much more of the spooky side of things. Having played Dos2, I suspect that a dark aesthetic is a personal preference by the creative team, but there's always going folks like me who prefer Protector Aasimar Bards, Human Devotion Paladins and Tabaxi Druids over the alternative.

When it comes to expanded class options, I've always loved Celestial Warlocks and Divine Soul Sorcerers because there's something nice about charisma based characters related to respected celestial powers.

I do like morally ambiguous characters, I'm just not into grimdark.

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Originally Posted by KillerRabbit
Originally Posted by kanisatha
I see Shadowheart as the evil one and if anything Lae'zel as the neutral one.


With respect this is where you are losing out by getting the impressions from the videos and not the game itself smile I urge you get the game so your opinions have a greater chance of influencing the final product.

You are missing the moment to moment interactions the -- Shadowheart 'approves', Lae'zel disapproves pop ups. Anytime I talk my way out of conflict SH is happy and LZ isn't. SH tends to approve of expressions of kindness, LZ doesn't. When you save an innocent -- from a child to an owlbear cub you get "Shadowheart approves".

LZ is a perfect LE space nazi. (stole that)

Like you, I want alignment in the system and we both want an entirely good party. If someone wants to play with the equivalent of the core BG party they should be able to do so.

But I do like the battle for souls that I think I'm seeing. My guess is that SH was either a priest of Selune or one of the kids abducted by the Sharrans in the blighted village. We may even be wandering through the places where she was abducted. So yes, SH is neutral evil but having a crisis of faith -- does listen to her heart or to the teachings of her goddess? I'm hoping that she will look to the MC for "should I embrace Shar" or "should I return to Selune instead"

And, again, this echoes Viconia who is the one evil character who doesn't urge you to join with Bodhi, the one evil character who will save the beggar from prison etc. In fact the only evil act she approves of is turning into the slayer. She was a Sharran that becomes neutral.

And Wyll is clearly on a road to damnation but he refuses to take the evil path of the game and he wants nothing more than to be seen as hero. He's also walking tightrope and I hope the devs let him fall either way (on our advice). His personal quest is to get out of the infernal deal he's trapped in -- which could come to a crisis point, will he give up that power and *be* good or will he let his vanity doom him. Right now I'd put him as Chaotic neutral, tending evil but redeemable.

Now I also want Mazzy Fentan. Granted there wasn't that much to Mazzy but I loved everything we got. Just a good person who is out to fight evil, make the world a better place and enjoy some adventures. So sick of the continuum of video games that only have a continuum from edgelord to yet another "grey" chacter who understands that morality is subjective and people are just mix.

Great post. Very insightful for me. Maybe I'll cut SH some slack until I know more. And yes, Viconia is one of the companions I like from BG.

And you are absolutely right that my take on the game is constrained by the fact I'm not actually playing the game myself. I readily concede that. But I won't just blow off my long-standing principle against playing EA games. Furthermore, given that I will hate the entire combat part of the game, and will only be playing it for its outside-of-combat parts, I cannot justify paying full price for the game. So I'll be waiting for when it's around 50% off before I'll consider buying it.

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