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stranger
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Joined: Oct 2020
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Game's gone silent for 11 days and we have no knowledge about what's going on... You should inform your players...
Last edited by MMK; 25/10/20 10:48 AM.
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enthusiast
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enthusiast
Joined: Oct 2020
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Accountability? Transparency? Larian studios?
Good joke.
I am here to discuss a video game. Please do not try to rope me into anything other than that. Thank you.
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addict
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Joined: Aug 2017
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Larian have been overall good at providing updates about the game (and other of their games) imo. Would I like to see a rough working plan (they would have one internally). Of course . We know act1 only for ea only, fair enough. Apart from bug fixes is the plan to add new classes next. Or fix and finish current classes. Or add new races or fix and add current races and subclasses. Add spells or crafting . Is the plan to Not add certain things until 1.0.
Anyway love the game, keep up the great work, and any (major) update will be great to see.
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Joined: Oct 2020
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Eh, 11 days isn't terrible. Once they've released several urgent hotfixes, they need to sort through all the EA release data to make something out of it, there's a stupid amount of stuff to analyze. All the in-game logs, heatmaps, player feedback... And then they need to figure out what exactly to do about it - and there's, again, lots of stuff that's in need of being taken care of.
But yes, as I've mentioned in another thread, a list of "known issues" or things that are being taken note of and considered would be a much needed piece of communication.
I think a community update every two weeks would be reasonable (with perhaps hotfixes/quick updates should an urgent problem arise).
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Joined: Oct 2020
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I don't see a real issue. Would it be nice to hear more? Yeah, a comforting pat on the back and 'We are listing' is great, but the truth is they have to sort out through a lot of data and come to decisions about them. 3 weeks playing the game is long, 3 weeks going through feedback, analyzing it and making decisions is ridicolously short.
I'm interested to see what conclusions Larian will draw from all of what's been written and the data they got from the game, but I don't think this whole EA-thing will be 'each week you get a status update and overhauls'. Based on the feedback right now they have to make a big decisions that potentially will revampt their whole combat system and require them to rebalance and change all encounters if they accept that people want 5e and not DOS3.
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Joined: Apr 2014
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Get ready to go a full month with silence. Patience, grasshopper.
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enthusiast
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Joined: Oct 2020
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I don't see a real issue. Would it be nice to hear more? Yeah, a comforting pat on the back and 'We are listing' is great, but the truth is they have to sort out through a lot of data and come to decisions about them. 3 weeks playing the game is long, 3 weeks going through feedback, analyzing it and making decisions is ridicolously short.
I'm interested to see what conclusions Larian will draw from all of what's been written and the data they got from the game, but I don't think this whole EA-thing will be 'each week you get a status update and overhauls'. Based on the feedback right now they have to make a big decisions that potentially will revampt their whole combat system and require them to rebalance and change all encounters if they accept that people want 5e and not DOS3. The only conclusion that isn't intellectually dishonest and extremely underhanded is to immediately implement the changes as well as missing options(such as a RTwP mode).
I am here to discuss a video game. Please do not try to rope me into anything other than that. Thank you.
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enthusiast
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I don't see a real issue. Would it be nice to hear more? Yeah, a comforting pat on the back and 'We are listing' is great, but the truth is they have to sort out through a lot of data and come to decisions about them. 3 weeks playing the game is long, 3 weeks going through feedback, analyzing it and making decisions is ridicolously short.
I'm interested to see what conclusions Larian will draw from all of what's been written and the data they got from the game, but I don't think this whole EA-thing will be 'each week you get a status update and overhauls'. Based on the feedback right now they have to make a big decisions that potentially will revampt their whole combat system and require them to rebalance and change all encounters if they accept that people want 5e and not DOS3. The only conclusion that isn't intellectually dishonest and extremely underhanded is to immediately implement the changes as well as missing options(such as a RTwP mode). Yeah... Except RTwP - based on the questionaire you can find here - isn't something even close to 50% of the people want and it would just significantly increase the development time. Like you said 'needs to be immediatly implemented'... So sure, all the things they need to do are perfectly clear and undisputed and can be done within a week, probably even 2 days if they were not so bad at their jobs. Those lazy bastards.... ...
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Joined: Oct 2020
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You know nothing about silence. ![[Linked Image]](https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/72138443/oh-my-sweet-summer-child.jpg)
Last edited by RagnarokCzD; 25/10/20 11:45 AM.
I still dont understand why cant we change Race for our hirelings.  Lets us play Githyanki as racist as they trully are!
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Joined: Sep 2015
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The early access has sold more than 1 million copies. Imagine the gigantic work of going through every issues the players have been encountering since the 6th of october, compiling them, prioritizing them, while most of the team is still working on finishing the game.
Now I hope you understand why we haven't got much news so far.
Last edited by Nyanko; 25/10/20 12:28 PM.
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old hand
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Eh, 11 days isn't terrible. Once they've released several urgent hotfixes, they need to sort through all the EA release data to make something out of it, there's a stupid amount of stuff to analyze. All the in-game logs, heatmaps, player feedback... And then they need to figure out what exactly to do about it - and there's, again, lots of stuff that's in need of being taken care of. This. They got some hot stuff out of the way at the start, now it's analyze, develop and continue developing. Swen isn't shy, he and the team will get something out. That said they aren't that rare dev that talks to you non-stop, they've been above avg overall over the years and way better than going radio silent, that has never been their style in the social age.
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Joined: Oct 2020
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Game's gone silent for 11 days and we have no knowledge about what's going on... You should inform your players... You expect daily updates? Lol. A monthly update is the most you should expect. Or something every couple of months, thats how long these things take. And also they don't owe you anything, they could not do or say anything until next year a few months before full release to show us what they have been up to.
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enthusiast
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Joined: Oct 2020
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I don't see a real issue. Would it be nice to hear more? Yeah, a comforting pat on the back and 'We are listing' is great, but the truth is they have to sort out through a lot of data and come to decisions about them. 3 weeks playing the game is long, 3 weeks going through feedback, analyzing it and making decisions is ridicolously short.
I'm interested to see what conclusions Larian will draw from all of what's been written and the data they got from the game, but I don't think this whole EA-thing will be 'each week you get a status update and overhauls'. Based on the feedback right now they have to make a big decisions that potentially will revampt their whole combat system and require them to rebalance and change all encounters if they accept that people want 5e and not DOS3. The only conclusion that isn't intellectually dishonest and extremely underhanded is to immediately implement the changes as well as missing options(such as a RTwP mode). Yeah... Except RTwP - based on the questionaire you can find here - isn't something even close to 50% of the people want and it would just significantly increase the development time. Like you said 'needs to be immediatly implemented'... So sure, all the things they need to do are perfectly clear and undisputed and can be done within a week, probably even 2 days if they were not so bad at their jobs. Those lazy bastards.... ... Doesn't matter what the survey says, there is a large enough percentage that want the feature and we all took the full price plunge for EA. I work in IT and I could implement the entire mode in about 2 weeks provided I had nothing else to work on other than the implementation and I'm just one engineer. Development time is a valid complaint when you don't have two massive publishers bankrolling you on top of 60m income from full price EA. They can leave TB in as the easy mode it is and give us a RTwP mode.
I am here to discuss a video game. Please do not try to rope me into anything other than that. Thank you.
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Game's gone silent for 11 days and we have no knowledge about what's going on... You should inform your players... You expect daily updates? Lol. A monthly update is the most you should expect. Or something every couple of months, thats how long these things take. And also they don't owe you anything, they could not do or say anything until next year a few months before full release to show us what they have been up to. I know several D&D software / sites that do weekly updates but it's there community managers that are doing those updates. I don't expect developers or Sven to be telling us what is going on weekly, that community management's job. Good communications should always be part of a project.
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Joined: Oct 2020
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Larian is going through a bunch of bug reports and getting feed back. Let them work. EA is not even a month old. Obvious some people don't know how development works. I would be happy with a monthly update. They don't need to update us every day. You sound like the kid in the back seat asking "are we there yet?"
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Duchess of Gorgombert
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Joined: May 2010
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Please use RT/TB topic for discussing that topic. Thanks.
J'aime le fromage.
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Joined: Oct 2020
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Adding my voice to the mob, assuming Larian is serious about making a game people interested in the two brands really want, they have assumed a massive undertaking. There are obvious bugs and scripting conflicts, most minor (even if my game is stuck on one which broke my game and I haven't been able to play in two weeks) but also a lot of redesign requests.
While there would be comfort in knowing what they are doing, for my part I would much rather have them working on shit than talking about what they intend to work on. It could be much of what they are doing is experimenting and they would rather not offer false hope
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old hand
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I know several D&D software / sites that do weekly updates I'm not even aware of several DnD games in development, I suppose mobile could have a lot, I never pay attention to that. Is that where they are?
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I know several D&D software / sites that do weekly updates I'm not even aware of several DnD games in development, I suppose mobile could have a lot, I never pay attention to that. Is that where they are? When they mentioned sites im guessing things like Roll20, D&D Beyond, etc...that heavy non-stop development schedules for massive functionality changes like dynamic lighting as well as bug fixes and enhancements. They have active Twitter feeds, developers and employees who are highly active in the forums; and listen, repeat back, resolve, and follow up with things.
What is the problem you are solving? Does your proposed change solve the problem? Is your change feasible? What else will be affected by your change? Will your change impact revenue? Does your change align with the goals and strategies of the organizations (Larian, WotC)?
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I know several D&D software / sites that do weekly updates I'm not even aware of several DnD games in development, I suppose mobile could have a lot, I never pay attention to that. Is that where they are? I did not state games. www.dndbeyond.com does weekly dev update video. www.fantasygrounds.com does weekly dev update video. both of these are for running tabletop games by human DM from much smaller companies then Larian. both of those are by their community managers.
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