Larian Studios Forums Baldur's Gate III Baldur's Gate III - General [HUGE SPOILERS] Datamining Thread

I doubt it, but only because

Edwin was great. I meant that there were hardly any evil companions. Only 3 in the original and one more in the expansion.

Hopefully. It looks like she'll be a companion either way.

They would have to write her into Act 1 somehow then, no?

Lips of Darkness lol, she must be Shadowheart or Astarion waifu

If there would be 4 neutral, they probably can be encouraged by the player to go in either direction. You would then have 6 good and 2 evil.
I wish there would be more of all alignments but this will probably not happen.

While going through some tags on tumblr I found that scionsandsinners uploaded this audio file today which gives me a glimmer of hope that our actions might influence our party member's alignments. It's all just inspection now since we don't know the context and whether or not it can be prompted in EA. It leaves me thinking though... I would love to have our actions to spark a change in some of our more companions morals and ethics.

WotC told Larian some time during development that alignments were to be cut, so unless this dialogue is from the new system where companions are supposedly organic it might be a holdover from when you could rigidly shift their alignment. Alternatively it could be that all of this is cut and companions no longer change at all.

She is in Act 1 B, we only have Act 1 A in the EA.

And I'm pretty sure she's not a companion. There is only 3 companions/origins not in the EA that were datamined and she's not one of them.

I for one heavily endorse more fluid alignments as it gives you the impression of actually shaping the world around you, which is (or should be) the whole point of RPG (right?).

Even in BG2 there were a few characters that could swing either way based on the PC's influence and DAO further built on that while dumping the classical alignment tags.

If you really NEED to equip them with tags, what actually classifies Wyll and Gale as neutrals in your opinion? They (especially Wyll) will mostly go out of their way to help everyone you meet, with Wyll even leaving your party should you choose the evil way, sure their backstories are somewhat dodgier but shouldn't "good" be defined by acts rather than "tags"?

Am I looking forward to some "Butt kicking for goodness"? Damn right I am. But do I want a whole party of one dimensional characters limited by their alignment tag? No thanks, I prefer them the way they are now.

The point of an RPG is in the name. Role playing.
Regardless of that people thinking the power hungry megalomaniac with delusions of grandeur or the guy who sold his soul to an infernal knowingly are good puzzles me.

Because people are defined by their deeds, not their [misrepresented] backstories.

Yes, selling yourself to a devil because you want fame and glory as a spoiled noble and constantly being a braggart and proclaiming how you will be the greatest while the obvious consequences of your hubris threaten you and everyone around you are very telling actions indeed.

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Yeah and an essential element of roleplaying is actually having an influence on the world surrounding you, which would definitely mean people closest to you first.




Obviously you haven't really been paying as much attention as you claim (assuming by you asking for Gale's complete backstory in another thread).

He's just been beaten to the brink of death, lost his eye, lost his comrades, seen the village with lots of innocents burn. Then this woman arrives out of nowhere (well should have been a sign, but our boy isn't exactly the sharpest tool), promises him revenge, he takes her up on her offer, discovers she's a cambion later. He's at least trying to use his ill gotten powers for good from then on, doubting himself constantly whether or not that still makes him a good person - with bragging being just a coping mechanism really. And I'd bet my 2 cents it'sup to the PC to push him either way.

Wyll is just a younger (and way more into fame) Ammon Jerro.

Heroes who makes deal with fiends to gain power to defeat evil. The big difference, Ammon sacrificed everything to defeat an evil entity (and failed because baby) while Wyll is doing it for revenge, power and feel good about himself (including telling you to kill people for him because he's pissed they don't want to answer his question and then blame you for it).

And yet Ammon is neutral evil while people think Wyll is good aligned...

Depends on who you're roleplaying doesn't it? I'm not really disagreeing with you but you're reasoning for your assertion is false.


Oh I'm asking for proof by someone that says Gale 100% slept with Mystra herself and other shenanigan's and asking for evidence while I say what he actually tells you. Pursuing vengeance regardless of the cost is also evil FYI and regretting yourself being an idiot is not redemption. Like you said, it's about action, not words.


@Azarhal
That's pretty much par for the course on this forum.

Their backstories have been created by Larian. They didn't just randomly appear out of nowhere. So firstly, they don't misrepresent anything. And therefore, secondly, their backstories represent their deeds and choices (prior to the PC meeting them). As such, the backstories are absolutely fair game for defining who those characters are.


This is just not true. Swen himself confirmed in one of his recent interviews that alignment is in the game. The only open question is the extent to which it has any relevance within the game.

As this is the datamining thread, I was just listened to some Kevlor's datamined voiced lines and

Damn my curiosity. Okay, I’m done with this thread. I wish I hadn’t spoiled that detail for myself.

Others beware, this is a spoiler you might prefer to discover in game.

No, I think people are misinterpreting that tag.