Originally Posted by Aurgelmir
Originally Posted by Vekkares

Finally someone that understands and articulates what im trying to say! Thank you sir, you are the reason I posted. I am not saying lets fire them, im saying they came into this thinking they could make D:OS-The DND skin. I dont want that. My main concerns are a closer to DnD balance. I know the hate for barrellmancy is strong. The higher ground is a dumb mechanic almost everyone hates. I know the ground effects arent liked. Beyond that, small changes could make this more DnD, less OS. My main "ask" is the character import/export so I can play with friends easier. That makes this more of a DnD experience. I hate the idea of being force to play as an NPC, if I dont start a brand new game with a friend. I want an entire party of player characters, not being forced to play as the Origin characters. Again all things that require small changes to what they have already done. Its not horrible, especially in this state, but I would say, if youre inviting people to pay full price for your alpha build to give you feedback, RESPOND to those people. A small customer service team on the forums or a weekly update chat addressing the top items on the forums, which is super easy to do. Something to open discussions with your paying testers.


I think you should shy away from "almost everyone" style arguments. That's probably informed by confirmation bias, and well those of us who likes something usually don't talk about it on the forums.


Personally I find this argument about "this is Divinity Original Sin" is stupid. Firstly, DOS is more than barrels, surfaces and height advantage. DOS has a completely different action economy and ruleset altogether. If I was coming into this game expecting to play DOS then I'd be very disappointed that they "dumbed down" the combat and character creation system. Sure in DOS Barrels and surfaces play a part, and is part of what makes that game cool, but it's not the main point of the game.

Besides surfaces is a part of "the DnD experience", they work somewhat differently than DOS, but they are there. My personal opinion is that Larian should read the Players Handbook again, and implement it as is, then see where their ideas can be added. I think the issue with Height advantage is an issue of balanceing it, not an issue of "it's stupid" the idea is great, and something I know is house ruled at many tables.

As for your "ask": Larian has stated they are planning to add a Mercenary system, and you can recruit "build it yourself" characters from the camp. This would solve your issue, and don't require an import export function.

This is stil a work in progress, don't act as if it's a finished game. This is the Alpha build, treat it as such. Major changes will come, and I'm sure they have heard us loud and clear: "Make it more like Dungeons and Dragons 5e".




The Merc system is a horrible idea. I want to use MY character. If a friend is a little behind of ahead, being able to take them out of my game and into theirs or vice versa. Eff off with any "OP" with levels and gear BS! There are cheat engines, so thats not a qualifier for shooting down the same idea from DA:O and BG1&2. Its not effecting the world im ported into, any different than it did to games 20 years ago. Im simply copying the character I am attached to, to play with friends. The whole point of D&D is to play with your friends and build your character/characters. I have been playing Adventures League for 3 years now and I have about 20 different characters, so tell me, why should this key element not be in the game?

As for alot of the other BS you have said, this game is D:OS3 in its current state. I have yet to sit in a homebrew, module, or book, where every battle is "ok the goblins use acid arrows and the ground is covered in acid, so you will take damage. Oh and the 47 explosive barrels you picked up are enough to kill this dragon." Its stupid. Its lame. No one wants to play with friends to be an NPC, no one wants cantrips were half the damage is related to the ground??? Just keep fanboying, im sure Larian will offer you a job. Cause god forbid people ask for better in a game asking us what we want!