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In Pathfinder Kingmaker playing a spellcaster always felt gimped outside of the big spells, I get that CC is pretty awesome but man cantrips barely tickle even as an Arcane Trickster they kinda suck.
At least on PFKM you HAVE BIG spells. And cantrips being extremely weak is the point of older editions of D&D and pathfinder. BG3 in other hands, i fell extremely useless as a warlock. But spells scale with you. Magic missile can produce 5 missiles on PFKM and on BG3, only one.
PFKM screenshot
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Note that other thing that I don't understand is why so many people believes that WLK draw their power from their patron, when the patron is like a master who teaches the warlock. Is that way since 2e... Warlocks on 3.5e was vastly different, with invocations as spell like abilities, but still no "cleric" vibe. 5e combines spell slots from 2e with invocations/SLA from 3.5e.