Originally Posted by SGTSPIRE
I guess, the D&D fans want a better game and less frosting. I am all for the relationship building, companionship, but this is becoming like the games you mentioned and not a representation of what D&D players have been known to experience at a table.

I don't need the adult content in role playing games, like cutscenes. Also the companion should also attempt to concede or adopt to your playstyle as well.

Again it just looks like "Pick the right option to watch a cutscene" and not a good representation of an actual relationship built on trust or acquaintance.


No, you're just trying to gatekeep who and why DnD is for.
Romance is a part of PnP too.
Your experience isn't representative of everyone elses.
You're projecting your own reasoning behind it unto other people, I've never looked at sex scenes or whatever in a game as a reward just a visual representation of what's happening the same as in every other cutscene where something that isn't just standing around talking happens.
Should we remove that too because it's not necessary? Do you think that people don't pick certain options just to watch a certain cutscene play out outside of romance too?
Renegade Shepard in Mass Effect became a meme for a reason.

Why would the companions just adapt to you this early on too, they're their own individuals?
That stuff takes time and a lot of effort, again look at DA:O.
Morrigan can go through a massive character arc where she changes significantly depending on the player but it's something that plays out over the course of the whole game.
Whether it be writing or gameplay-wise, that's something that takes time narratively.

One could make this argument about sex and romance too but I think this has more to do with it being EA and they want to give people a taste and test it out, significant changes would contain spoilers.
And casual sex is a thing too and actually does make sense for some characters and people who are risking their lives and every day could be their last, there's some characters tho where I'd argue that it sorta comes a bit out of nowhere.
But ultimately you're not forced to go through with it, and people are imagining their characters and their relationships with the companions differently.


Originally Posted by SGTSPIRE
Who doesn't like logic.
So are you saying the visuals are the romance or the relationship.
My comments are specific to removing the cutscenes that are normally without words.
Not removing the relationship or "romance"
Just curious.


The cutscenes are a visual representation of it and what's happening in the scene...
The same way that seeing your character commit acts of violence is a visual representation of your character being a jerk if you choose to play as an evil character.
You're just choosing to view the sex or kissing scenes specifically as a '' reward '', I don't want to play armchair psychologists all I'll say is that I think that says more about you and your views on sex than the game itself.

Originally Posted by SGTSPIRE
I liked the cutscenes with more then a visual, like the scene with Shadow Heart and the wine totally ok. There is dialogue, history, an opening up of sorts. That I want, just not the stuff beyond PG13, if you get my drift. I just don't see a need for it here. My opinion I guess. I think in the end though most people want the same result, when it comes to getting to know the companions, their history, back story, gaining their trust, and a more personal relationship.


A personal relationship and sex are not mutually exclusive...
For most people they're in fact very heavily connected, people generally don't stay in relationships with each other unless they're physically attracted to each other and relationships without sex don't tend to last long.
Not to mention that we're talking about people who are risking their lives and every day might be their last, adrenaline, excitement and sex are quite heavily connected too ( and alcohol if you want to talk about the camp thing specifically, for better or for worse ).
And I don't see you arguing that the game should be PG13 in general, you're very specifically honing in on the sex and I am guessing nudity too.
It's just totally arbitrary whether there is a '' need '' for it or not.
If you don't feel like it's '' necessary '' no one is forcing you to watch it.