Originally Posted by N7Greenfire
Originally Posted by Sludge Khalid
Originally Posted by Stabbey
Originally Posted by N7Greenfire


based on the D&D 5e ruleset. Team-based initiative, advantage & disadvantage, and roll modifiers join combat cameras, expanded environmental interactions, and a new fluidity in combat that rewards strategy and foresight.


Literally on the steam page, the game was never going to be a pure 5e conversion, that qnd the overwhelmingly positive steam reviews for the game currently mean its doubtfully they'll cave to a vocal minority,

You will probably get a game option that removes mechanics though.

If you want pure 5e rules go get tabletop simulator



This is a bad strawman argument. You are pretending that the ONLY reason people are complaining is because it is not an exact 1:1 copy of the 5e rules, and you are deliberately ignoring all the arguments explaining, in depth and detail, why a lot of the rule changes are bad for game balance. You are offering no defense for the changes, you are not explaining how the changes are improvements to the game, you are just pretending that people are just mindlessly raging for no reason whatsoever. Taking that tactic gives you ZERO credibility.


It's also ridiculous to focus on the "based on" part of "based on the 5e ruleset" as a loophole which means they can change anything and everything. I mean, they could change anything and everything, but that's called misleading advertising, and misleading advertising is not a good way to retain repeat customers. It's also an old quote because the game no longer features team-based initiative.



Indeed Stabbey,

I’m yet to find something more dangerous than an okay’ish person that cannot use solid arguments and have as the main strategy in the attack upon the others opinions.

Op said that larien never talked about changing the rules, that is false, you are the one creating strawman

Read the full quote... it talks about advantage and surface interactions too, larien layed it all on the table


Thing is that everything that is listed in that quote of steam page exists in D&D rules.
Advantage and disadvantage wasn't changed, rules for giving it were.
Environmental interactions exist in D&D. Rules specifiing how they work are a bit fusy at times. But even than there are guidlines for how to calculate them.
Word "based" for me implies a lot mor similarities, that we've got.
So for me this still looks like false advatising. I made my peace with it. Couse I belive this will be a good game. And since I most likely will play with mods anyway, what is a couple extra.