Op said that larien never talked about changing the rules, that is false, you are the one creating strawman
Read the full quote... it talks about advantage and surface interactions too, larien layed it all on the table
Well you did not get the point than.
First of all i want to distance myself from "raging about not being 100%". I made clear in many threads the part i very much like about the game and i try to be fair. Also you never get 100% PC adaptation because its impossible.
When i, as a consumer, read that the game is supposed to be a DnD5e based game, i kinda expect that the game, especially the very mechanical parts, like the combat, works like the DnD5e system.
Since i am, just as most of the "complainants", NOT just wildly bashing the game, but trying to give in depth feedback on WHY many of the changes from the DnD5e rules are bad, im very much disappointed, that people like me and most others are being branded basicly as cry babies. This is very much not how constructive discussions work. Also, as i said, i´t would be absolutely fair for me if i just knew, what is going to happen. as i said, i will just accept that i wasted 60€, will be a little disappointed and move on. This topic was not about the state of the game right now, but about communication.
Because i very much feel it was a fair assumption of mine, that i get to fight combats on the PC that are very much like the DnD5e combats mechanicly. And this is for various reasons absolutely not the case.
About the "based on..." argument. This is a cheap excuse. If i release a game calling it "based on soccer" and when i release it its rocket league, then people might very understandably be mad. Yes technicly its right, that there are 2 teams trying to push a ball in a goal, but i think we can fairly agree that this is pretty much NOT a soccer game.
And the same goes for BG3 right now. Yes it uses a hit-roll mechanic, a damageroll mechanic and ability modifiers and classes that appear in DnD. Fair enough. But the way the characters behave in a combat, what they are capable and not capable of doing, what their strength and weaknesses are, how they fight, wich fights they can take, wich fights they can not take etc is VERY^20 different from DnD5e. So yes, it shares some mechanics, but most of those mechanics are also in lets say pathfinder, and noone would argue that this is a pathfinder game.
Also it is about nuances. Yes obviously i knew, that surface effects were coming. And honestly i was looking forward to it. why not. DnD is a pen and paper and such things happen and get ruled by the DM accordingly. But then the game comes and: literally every freaking goblins has arrows with surface effects, cantrips get manipulated to have surface effects, every fkin bottle you can throw has surface effects, there are a metric ton of exploding casks all over the place and you can literally win any fight in the game without even using weapons because you have those effects and can even, as a bonus action, shove people into them. This affects the value of AC there for heavily devalues the benefits of heavy armor classes, since all those effects auto-hit. this drasticly increases DPR in the game, since basicly anything you do creats strong DoT effects. I will not go in any further detail in this post, but one can easily see: "there will be surface effects" is no reliable message. The meaning of it can reach from:
"they would have put them in as a gimmicky thing to play with, but that fits in the DnD5e context" - wich i assumed, considering its meant to be a DnD based game, all the way to:
"they are so freakin damn strong that they basicly replace any weapon or spell to at least to level 3-4 and EVERYONE has them in EVERY fight" - wich is the case right now.
So also be fair on your side. I think it is absolutely fair if one has not seen that coming like this.
And also be fair in regards of "who dislikes it will just refund and only those who wanna flame around go to forums". Like no. It takes easily 3-4 hours to get like the first 5-6 fights in, with a full group on like level 2 with some gear to see a clearer picture, and i absolutely did not want to ditch that game after character creation+tutorial^^ so refund is no option.
