Originally Posted by VincentNZ


Yeah, this makes sense in a roleplay and personal of way, but doesn't Intimidate and demeanour skill checks require charisma? In any case also being able to choose backgrounds and talents help in that regard, so I would agree with you and you give sound advice.
Intelligence is really a pet peeve of mine, even 12 I find almost too low for my personal character. I am now running on ten, which is a mental strain on me as a person and character, if you get my drift. laugh I can not really disconnect intelligence from intellect. Otherwise there would be no real stat representing that. Wisdom is more real world knowledge, and Charisma is emotional and social intelligence (street smart). Intelligence, for me, therefore can only mean intellect and knowledge (eduaction) only in a more abstrct from like arcane, mathematical, chemical and physical knowledge on an academic level.
That is my defitnion, of course, but apparently I will be able to roll my characters, so I can pick up a +2-4 and I will be happy. smile


Intimidate being only CHA has always been weird to me. Like, yah. A small guy can be very intimidating with high CHA. But if you're a huge dragonborn barbarian who is obviously physically dangerous you should be plenty intimidating enough. I remember one group having a house rule that you can choose to roll your intimidation check with STR and it was a lot more fun for our big meaty friends. You can only get so far with intimidation rather than deception or persuasion so I don't consider it overpowered, personally.

Yah, I definitely get you there. There's something uniquely insulting by having a low INT score just because it is called intelligence, even if you can roleplay a very smart person with low INT and high WIS or CHA. But, at the end of the day, there is no stat that governs being clever, creative, and quick witted, which means even the most min-maxed barbarian can still roleplay a competently intelligent person.

To be honest I am glad there's no actual intelligence stat for that reason. Cleverness should come from the player, not the stat sheet. I don't think having an INT of 8 should forbid you the player from coming up with creative plays or using smart tactics because that fundamentally removes options from your role in the game and makes it less engaging.

Especially in the context of BG3. Can you imagine if the game told you that you couldn't make a specific play because your character wasn't smart enough to think of it? Oof. That'd be awful.

Last edited by SaurianDruid; 06/11/20 10:33 AM.