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Let's add a battle whip, knout, sjambok, scythe etc to the game.

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As well as unique options for swords, for ex I was sure that the demon commander from the prologue would have a beautiful fire sword as a drop, but I got a standard model

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And a scythe, to kill all our desires.



Scythe is the perfect weapon for a necromancer, a great idea
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I agree smile , I hope you wont get flamed like I did in my post :), like ... oh noo I like my weapon to be realistically sized.... smile

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Originally Posted by OneManArmy
Let's add a battle whip, knout, sjambok, etc to the game.

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Originally Posted by Verte
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And a scythe, to kill all our desires.

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And a scythe, to kill all our desires.



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Not that my approval matters, but I agree. Scythes and whips are essential. Why not be pro all weapons though? So many sexy and deadly weapons there are. No?

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Edit: Also this kinda goes for the thread about the datamined armor I guess.
Apparently people would be '' embarrassed '' by wearing pink according to some people, meanwhile our ancestors walked around with penis daggers.

And yes these daggers were VERY common.

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But remember.
Wearing pink back in the day would be '' embarrassing ''.


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Edit: Also this kinda goes for the thread about the datamined armor I guess.
Apparently people would be '' embarrassed '' by wearing pink according to some people, meanwhile our ancestors walked around with penis daggers.

And yes these daggers were VERY common.

Usually known as "bollock daggers" in the UK, AIUI.

Anyway, regular swords are sexy enough; by which I mean RL ones without all the jewels and batwings and spikes. Here's a couple of mine.

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Hey Svalr, I know you are going to beat that strawman into a fucking coma, but maybe you missed that the problem with that armor was the design more than the color.

Also, are you going to keep posting all the fringe stuff you can find under the pretense that normal people loved going around wearing it in spades?


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Edit: Also this kinda goes for the thread about the datamined armor I guess.
Apparently people would be '' embarrassed '' by wearing pink according to some people, meanwhile our ancestors walked around with penis daggers.

And yes these daggers were VERY common.

Usually known as "bollock daggers" in the UK, AIUI.

Anyway, regular swords are sexy enough; by which I mean RL ones without all the jewels and batwings and spikes. Here's a couple of mine.

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What sexy daggers! I would like to see such a dagger in this scene. Although, the dagger that is now in the game is also not bad. Moderately sexy but very relevant.
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Although, I hadn't thought about the sexuality of daggers before. It's been a month since Early Access was released, and players are already suffering from a lack of content - discussing the sexuality of daggers


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Not really to the point of the post, but when you first meet up with astarion, he is holding his knife backwards. That is fine in reverse grip like the above picture, but holding it upright it is in the wrong direction....

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I like my weapons to look traditional and functional, and don't need them to resemble BDSM equipment.
I'm somehow in the minority with that it seems.


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No no, I too would like functional and practical looking weapons. I make some exceptions for "cool" things like a FF7 cloud sword to some degree, but there does reach a point where it is just ridiculous.

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The whip thing can be kinda scarry. I think I love that idea the most ^^ Especially you have the metal whips made for battle and that would look awesome.


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Originally Posted by Tzelanit
I like my weapons to look traditional and functional, and don't need them to resemble BDSM equipment.
I'm somehow in the minority with that it seems.



I think that you are when it comes to the '' traditional and functional '' part, most people don't care and just want things that look cool I think.
Things get really boring real fast when that's your priority and it's hard to communicate a sense of progression.
I mean it's quite underwhelming when you have a longsword, then you get '' the sword of a thousand truths '' and it's just another longsword.

I am pretty sure the OP is trolling about the whips at least tho lol, one of the whips is basically an actual BDSM whip I think.
With that said, the bollocks dagger that I linked is an actual historical dagger, they were incredibly popular in Europe.
I might be wrong about this, but I remember reading about how they were basically the predecessors of dirks.
Dirks... Diiiiiiiiicks?
I am probably reading too much into the name lol, but yeah.

Our ancestors didn't just walk around with generic swords, they had a sense of humor about it and blinged out what they wore.
They were a bit limited by standardization and how complex you could make metalwork and woodwork and keep that standardization.
But the same as with armor and clothing, the more complexity blacksmiths and tailors at large could handle the more designed and stylized it became.
In a fantasy setting it's not that hard to believe that they'd be able to handle more complexity or that blacksmiths and tailorers would put more of themselves into their works especially if magic is involved.

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Is a bollock dagger actually 'sexy' to people? Funny or provocative, perhaps, but sexy?

Is a BDSM whip really a weapon? Would you honestly choose to carry that into battle intending to use it against an opponent?

Sometimes people's opinions and tastes on these things leave me thinking I'm a lot more vanilla than I give myself credit for.

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Btw in regards to Scythes, they do get dismissed a lot but historical treatises of fighting with them actually do exist.
As did Scythes meant for war, they weren't common but they were an actual thing.
Billhooks are another example too of a tool developing into a weapon, and they were incredibly effective against armor.

So it's not quite as crazy as some may think.

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Is a bollock dagger actually 'sexy' to people? Funny or provocative, perhaps, but sexy?

Is a BDSM whip really a weapon? Would you honestly choose to carry that into battle intending to use it against an opponent?

Sometimes people's opinions and tastes on these things leave me thinking I'm a lot more vanilla than I give myself credit for.


It was mainly a joke, but I mean yeah kinda?
'' Sexy '' wasn't really a concept back then in the way that it is today, but masculinity was definitely seen as very attractive and desirable and was expressed in quite not so subtle ways all the time.
Men having toned shins was seen as incredibly attractive at one point and writers thirsted real hard about how '' sexy '' the shins of kings and nobles were.

I mean if '' boobplate '' is treated as super ultra hyper sexualized then I find it a bit silly to just totally dismiss the bollocks dagger.
It's sorta another discussion altogether tho and I think gets more into how scared we are on a societal level of acknowledging the male physique as sexual and how overly sensitive we are to the female physique.
It becomes a bit silly when if you have even the curve of a female chest on something and everyone acts like it's '' oversexualized '' but then people literally walked around with things deliberately shaped like a penis and somehow that's not sexual.

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Originally Posted by Sadurian
Is a bollock dagger actually 'sexy' to people? Funny or provocative, perhaps, but sexy?

Is a BDSM whip really a weapon? Would you honestly choose to carry that into battle intending to use it against an opponent?

Sometimes people's opinions and tastes on these things leave me thinking I'm a lot more vanilla than I give myself credit for.


The battle whip is not uncommon, it is the standard weapon for all demonesses and succubus in video games, sometimes sorceresses. It would be nice to see him in at least female demons and Cambion, or where it will be really appropriate. Why not
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Originally Posted by Svalr
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I like my weapons to look traditional and functional, and don't need them to resemble BDSM equipment.
I'm somehow in the minority with that it seems.


I am pretty sure the OP is trolling about the whips at least tho lol, one of the whips is basically an actual BDSM whip I think.


I really, really don't think OP is trolling. If you're bored and feeling brave, go check out their other sexually-repressed horror show posts. Everything always has a smarmy smear of underlying kink attached to it.

And I mean, I don't really need every sword to look like a boring, flattened piece of sheet metal. I just like weapons that look like you could use them without breaking them or injuring yourself.
Whips aren't practical self-defense weapons. Scythes, on the other hand, make great weapons. I assure you, my views on the "sexiness" of weapons aren't puritanical. wink


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Originally Posted by Svalr
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A few people have mentioned the scythe as a weapon of war. Don't confuse specially altered blades adapted for fighting for the actual agricultural tool. Whilst agricultural scythes were certainly used in extremis, scythes carried as more formal weapons were not simple agricultural tools but were specially adapted, usually by altering the angle of the blade to resemble a fauchard (the weapon that evolved from the scythe) or glaive. Swinging a scythe in arcs to try to cut the enemy off at the knee is not going to be an optimum tactic.

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Originally Posted by Sadurian
A few people have mentioned the scythe as a weapon of war. Don't confuse specially altered blades adapted for fighting for the actual agricultural tool. Whilst agricultural scythes were certainly used in extremis, scythes carried as more formal weapons were not simple agricultural tools but were specially adapted, usually by altering the angle of the blade to resemble a fauchard (the weapon that evolved from the scythe) or glaive. Swinging a scythe in arcs to try to cut the enemy off at the knee is not going to be an optimum tactic.


Is the scythe that Grim Reaper usually uses is a combat scythe, agricultural scythe, or a unique scythe?
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Originally Posted by Sadurian
A few people have mentioned the scythe as a weapon of war. Don't confuse specially altered blades adapted for fighting for the actual agricultural tool. Whilst agricultural scythes were certainly used in extremis, scythes carried as more formal weapons were not simple agricultural tools but were specially adapted, usually by altering the angle of the blade to resemble a fauchard (the weapon that evolved from the scythe) or glaive. Swinging a scythe in arcs to try to cut the enemy off at the knee is not going to be an optimum tactic.



When I said '' war scythe '' I actually meant scythes specifically meant for battle, altho it's worth noting that treatises for scythes as in the actual tool actually did exist.
I think they may have been more for interests sake tho or just people experimenting.
Tools becoming weapons of war was common place so it's not that strange if they experimented with them at least.

But I don't think that even the tool would be that far fetched either.
I mean flails are a good example of this, as far as I know they really weren't much of a thing in warfare their actual use is heavily debated but people still accept them in media as an actual '' believable '' weapon if you get what I mean.
And the flails I've seen in treatises are two handed too and not one handed.

Edit: I totally forgot, but those two handed flails were actual agricultural tools too.
And they had treatises too xD, but yeah there still are one handed ones that are clearly not tools but their existence is really bizarre.

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I like my weapons to look traditional and functional, and don't need them to resemble BDSM equipment.
I'm somehow in the minority with that it seems.


I am pretty sure the OP is trolling about the whips at least tho lol, one of the whips is basically an actual BDSM whip I think.


I really, really don't think OP is trolling. If you're bored and feeling brave, go check out their other sexually-repressed horror show posts. Everything always has a smarmy smear of underlying kink attached to it.

And I mean, I don't really need every sword to look like a boring, flattened piece of sheet metal. I just like weapons that look like you could use them without breaking them or injuring yourself.
Whips aren't practical self-defense weapons. Scythes, on the other hand, make great weapons. I assure you, my views on the "sexiness" of weapons aren't puritanical. wink


Fair enough maybe the OP isn't trolling lol, I can respect that but tbh I did assume it.
That's my bad I guess.

I get what you mean now about the weapons.
I agree that whips in this setting wouldn't really work as a weapon, I mean it works if the setting supports it and is more fantastical in that sense but I don't think that Baldur's Gate is.
Then again, aren't nunchucks a weapon in DnD too? I know that they are in Pathfinder at least.

Flails like I mentioned above is an interesting example too, people generally tend to accept them as a valid weapon even in games that are simulators and trying to be very realistic.
But their use is so heavily debated, there's so many things wrong with them lol.

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Originally Posted by Svalr
It was mainly a joke, but I mean yeah kinda?
'' Sexy '' wasn't really a concept back then in the way that it is today, but masculinity was definitely seen as very attractive and desirable and was expressed in quite not so subtle ways all the time.

I understand that the dagger was supposed to represent hyper-masculinity and virility, I'm just surprised that people still find them sexy.

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Originally Posted by OneManArmy
Is the scythe that Grim Reaper usually uses is a combat scythe, agricultural scythe, or a unique scythe?

Given that it is not well-designed for either war or agriculture, I'm going with option c: Unique. I suspect that it is an artist's interpretation.

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It was mainly a joke, but I mean yeah kinda?
'' Sexy '' wasn't really a concept back then in the way that it is today, but masculinity was definitely seen as very attractive and desirable and was expressed in quite not so subtle ways all the time.

I understand that the dagger was supposed to represent hyper-masculinity and virility, I'm just surprised that people still find them sexy.


Heh, I am sure there's some people who find it sexy.
Then again, isn't masculinity and things like virility typically what is regarded as sexy in men?

I get what you mean I don't find it sexy either, but I also don't find '' boobplate '' and such things sexy either.
Same with the bulgeplate.
Altho I do think that both bulgeplate and the bollocks dagger are different and just straight up funny as well as sexual since they're potraying actual genitalia.



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Maybe the people who don't like sex scenes can find a common ground here with the OP.
What if they added the magic +2 dildo, and the magic effect it has is that it satìates you and your companions sexual urges so no sex scenes happen?

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I was just thinking about San Andreas where you could beat people to death with it and was filled with warm feelings


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Originally Posted by Abits
I want a +2 magic dildo please

I was hoping nobody would mention "that" Saints Row weapon. D:

Regarding the bollock dagger, it was actually a functional design in that the, erm, appendages were there to stop the hand from sliding off the grip onto the blade. But of course it quickly became a knob joke because people never change.


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Yes, we need more bladed weapons in game. laugh I guess sexy weapons are too much an opinion, so it is hard to think of things in this manner that would make sense for most people.

The whip of fangs would be an awesome addition for clerics of Lolth

There was also the claw bracer associated with the Cult of the Dragon, this maybe does not fit what you are looking for but photoshopped onto a picture of Minthara should make them sexy enough? smile


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In another game I play you can make a dildo spear, there is no magic however and the dildos are more useful to distract the npc enemies by throwing them (obviously won't work on players.) smile

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It has been scientifically proven that dildos can be a good weapon.
I really hope that Larian reconsiders.

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Scythe and battle whip are so cool ı hope Larian add these in game.

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I just want some simple one-handed spears, and slings.

...I guess they can be sexy slings.

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Shadowheart with a whip, I can see that

Anyway, love the BB conception of weapon transformation even if is unreal
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Originally Posted by Tzelanit
I like my weapons to look traditional and functional, and don't need them to resemble BDSM equipment.
I'm somehow in the minority with that it seems.


All equipment traditional and functional please, we are gaming - our characters are surviving (immersion factor). Most armor's functionality and colouring, are immersion-breaking for now at varying degrees. I would hope people thinking like us are not a minority, though.

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I would love to see more variety for weapons in terms of damage ...
I was pretty disapointed when i found out that warpicks wich is awesome and sexy for Dwarfs in mine opinion ... are quite weaker compared to other one handed weapons. frown

Also mine 2h weapon figher allways end up with either Sword of Tyr, or that Hallberard from Bernard.
Or my rogue never ends up with longbow, since heavy crossbow is so much stronger. :-/

So yeah, same as with armor ... i hope there will be both options, and also hope there will be some actual choice for us, not one totaly awesome and second totaly usless, just to seem that there are also other options ... :-/

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I like my weapons to look traditional and functional, and don't need them to resemble BDSM equipment.
I'm somehow in the minority with that it seems.


All equipment traditional and functional please, we are gaming - our characters are surviving (immersion factor). Most armor's functionality and colouring, are immersion-breaking for now at varying degrees. I would hope people thinking like us are not a minority, though.


How can a color be '' immersion breaking ''?
Are you sure that you're not mistaking immersion for your own idealized view of the medieval ages?

Immersion is also about being consistent within the setting imo, what would '' break my immersion '' in Baldur's Gate 3 is very different than in WoW.
But Baldur's Gate 3 is still not a simulator like Mordhau or Mount and Blade ( altho people in those games still run around naked ).
I mean '' traditional '' according to what?
It's a fictional setting with its own history, cultures and fashion.

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I thought overall the +1 swords looks good, (Short, Long, Great) Just too long.

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Are people here voting against scourges and whips for real? It's Faerun setting! Scourges and whips always were signature weapons for Loviatar cultists and drow matrons here. Immersion breaking now is that Loviatar priest uses mace, while narrator says that he uses whip.

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Originally Posted by Zellin
Are people here voting against scourges and whips for real? It's Faerun setting! Scourges and whips always were signature weapons for Loviatar cultists and drow matrons here. Immersion breaking now is that Loviatar priest uses mace, while narrator says that he uses whip.

I am glad someone else is disappointed with that laugh


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Originally Posted by Tzelanit
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I like my weapons to look traditional and functional, and don't need them to resemble BDSM equipment.
I'm somehow in the minority with that it seems.


I am pretty sure the OP is trolling about the whips at least tho lol, one of the whips is basically an actual BDSM whip I think.


I really, really don't think OP is trolling. If you're bored and feeling brave, go check out their other sexually-repressed horror show posts. Everything always has a smarmy smear of underlying kink attached to it.


Seriously, wtf. Someone put the OP in horny jail. Permanently.

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Originally Posted by Vamathi
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Are people here voting against scourges and whips for real? It's Faerun setting! Scourges and whips always were signature weapons for Loviatar cultists and drow matrons here. Immersion breaking now is that Loviatar priest uses mace, while narrator says that he uses whip.

I am glad someone else is disappointed with that laugh

Well, I'm not really disappointed, I could bet it's a placeholder while they are working on a proper whip, cause that weapon needs some really complicated animation. But yes, the whip should be there... And a scourge for my drow to use one day.

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Originally Posted by Zellin
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[quote=Zellin]Are people here voting against scourges and whips for real? It's Faerun setting! Scourges and whips always were signature weapons for Loviatar cultists and drow matrons here. Immersion breaking now is that Loviatar priest uses mace, while narrator says that he uses whip.

I am glad someone else is disappointed with that laugh

'Muh immersion' was broken haha
I see how floppy and glitchy my tiefling's tail gets sometimes, so it might not always be visually great, but whips are fun weapon; and my evil drow cleric needs one!


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[quote=Zellin]Are people here voting against scourges and whips for real? It's Faerun setting! Scourges and whips always were signature weapons for Loviatar cultists and drow matrons here. Immersion breaking now is that Loviatar priest uses mace, while narrator says that he uses whip.

I am glad someone else is disappointed with that laugh

'Muh immersion' was broken haha
I see how floppy and glitchy my tiefling's tail gets sometimes, so it might not always be visually great, but whips are fun weapon; and my evil drow cleric needs one!



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Anyway, regular swords are sexy enough; by which I mean RL ones without all the jewels and batwings and spikes. Here's a couple of mine.

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What sexy daggers! I would like to see such a dagger in this scene. Although, the dagger that is now in the game is also not bad. Moderately sexy but very relevant.

Not quite daggers, more sort of... well, swords, really.

I would say here's me with another sword the same size proving swords can still be sexy even when modelled by an unsexy fat grumpy halfwit (and all in glorious Dragon Age Oranges style Smudge-O-Vision too) except it kinda looks ambiguous enough that it could be a dagger. It's a usual one-handed sword though, with a blade 30" or so long. I mean it's literally 3' away from me but I can't be arsed to go and measure it.

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I like my weapons to look traditional and functional, and don't need them to resemble BDSM equipment.
I'm somehow in the minority with that it seems.


All equipment traditional and functional please, we are gaming - our characters are surviving (immersion factor). Most armor's functionality and colouring, are immersion-breaking for now at varying degrees. I would hope people thinking like us are not a minority, though.


How can a color be '' immersion breaking ''?
Are you sure that you're not mistaking immersion for your own idealized view of the medieval ages?

Immersion is also about being consistent within the setting imo, what would '' break my immersion '' in Baldur's Gate 3 is very different than in WoW.
But Baldur's Gate 3 is still not a simulator like Mordhau or Mount and Blade ( altho people in those games still run around naked ).
I mean '' traditional '' according to what?
It's a fictional setting with its own history, cultures and fashion.



It can be. Better believe me I'm not having an idealized view, before I'll go for the proof:-) Let's just say we may have different sources of fantasy inspiration.
It's not about "historical authenticity". It is about knowing how materials, armor parts may look (and work) in practice, without sacrificing "coolness" factors. It is quite possible if an artist decided (or had the time) to do the research on this.

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Originally Posted by vometia
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Anyway, regular swords are sexy enough; by which I mean RL ones without all the jewels and batwings and spikes. Here's a couple of mine.

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What sexy daggers! I would like to see such a dagger in this scene. Although, the dagger that is now in the game is also not bad. Moderately sexy but very relevant.

Not quite daggers, more sort of... well, swords, really.

I would say here's me with another sword the same size proving swords can still be sexy even when modelled by an unsexy fat grumpy halfwit (and all in glorious Dragon Age Oranges style Smudge-O-Vision too) except it kinda looks ambiguous enough that it could be a dagger. It's a usual one-handed sword though, with a blade 30" or so long. I mean it's literally 3' away from me but I can't be arsed to go and measure it.

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So, are we going to size up our swords then?..
All right, one has roughly 39 inches total length, another 55 inches (in 5e terms, it is not already a longsword, and not yet a greatsword, thus it does not exist!)


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Give me a bastard sword and a longbow (composite if that even matters anymore in 5E) and decked out like Helm and I'm good to go. badsmile

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Originally Posted by Tzelanit
I like my weapons to look traditional and functional, and don't need them to resemble BDSM equipment.
I'm somehow in the minority with that it seems.


Well, some should look like BDSM equipment, stuff from the Drow or maybe if we ended up in the Shadowfell or against an evil cult but yes, we need normal / heroic weapons too.

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Originally Posted by Tzelanit
I like my weapons to look traditional and functional, and don't need them to resemble BDSM equipment.
I'm somehow in the minority with that it seems.


Well, some should look like BDSM equipment, stuff from the Drow or maybe if we ended up in the Shadowfell or against an evil cult but yes, we need normal / heroic weapons too.
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Btw in regards to Scythes, they do get dismissed a lot but historical treatises of fighting with them actually do exist.
As did Scythes meant for war, they weren't common but they were an actual thing.
Billhooks are another example too of a tool developing into a weapon, and they were incredibly effective against armor.

So it's not quite as crazy as some may think.

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Is a bollock dagger actually 'sexy' to people? Funny or provocative, perhaps, but sexy?

Is a BDSM whip really a weapon? Would you honestly choose to carry that into battle intending to use it against an opponent?

Sometimes people's opinions and tastes on these things leave me thinking I'm a lot more vanilla than I give myself credit for.


It was mainly a joke, but I mean yeah kinda?
'' Sexy '' wasn't really a concept back then in the way that it is today, but masculinity was definitely seen as very attractive and desirable and was expressed in quite not so subtle ways all the time.
Men having toned shins was seen as incredibly attractive at one point and writers thirsted real hard about how '' sexy '' the shins of kings and nobles were.

I mean if '' boobplate '' is treated as super ultra hyper sexualized then I find it a bit silly to just totally dismiss the bollocks dagger.
It's sorta another discussion altogether tho and I think gets more into how scared we are on a societal level of acknowledging the male physique as sexual and how overly sensitive we are to the female physique.
It becomes a bit silly when if you have even the curve of a female chest on something and everyone acts like it's '' oversexualized '' but then people literally walked around with things deliberately shaped like a penis and somehow that's not sexual.


Guys are weird, just google armored codpiece to see all the armor where they added a "package" to the armor. They also thought tiny waist on guys was sexy so worked that into the armor and high heels were first worn my guys, for riding horse, stirrups.

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See Elizabethan armour for examples of when fashion influenced armour design. By that stage, of course, it was more about status and less about actual protection.

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A few people have mentioned the scythe as a weapon of war. Don't confuse specially altered blades adapted for fighting for the actual agricultural tool. Whilst agricultural scythes were certainly used in extremis, scythes carried as more formal weapons were not simple agricultural tools but were specially adapted, usually by altering the angle of the blade to resemble a fauchard (the weapon that evolved from the scythe) or glaive. Swinging a scythe in arcs to try to cut the enemy off at the knee is not going to be an optimum tactic.


Is the scythe that Grim Reaper usually uses is a combat scythe, agricultural scythe, or a unique scythe?


Nope, think about fighting with that.

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War Scythes have the blade straighten out so more a polearm.

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So, are we going to size up our swords then?..
All right, one has roughly 39 inches total length, another 55 inches (in 5e terms, it is not already a longsword, and not yet a greatsword, thus it does not exist!)

Cute jade plants! We have one called Deirdre.

Nice swords too, especially the big bugger.


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Well. Out of these I really only would object to "weapon" number two as that is mere jewelry and not a weapon at all. I guess it could be used to deter a creepy stalker at night by swinging it into his/her face but that's pretty much it. If that stalker carries a knife, you're at disadvantage. If the person also knows how to handle that knife, you're dead.

The kama with chain could work, IF they animate it correctly. I E, not having the character swing the kama around like a ball on a rope. I really hate what the 80's ninja movies did there. The weapon did exist and originates from a farmers tool(the kama) that got enhanced by a chain to ensnare and disarm an opponent that afterward could get slashed/stabbed by the kama. Swinging the kama around like a scythe would most probably only lead to self harm or the kama getting stuck into a tree.

Chakras exist and might not be the most efficient weapons in history but they filled a purpose. I guess you could also see the style in which they are used as being "cool".

Lastly the chain whip did also exist but were primarily used as a weapon of surprise, being easily concealed in your palm or long sleeve until you choose to attack, aiming for the eyes. If the first initial strike failed, it could later be used as a defensive tool parrying some blade attacks or disarm your opponent. A secondary weapon at best.

Except number two I don't really see a problem with these being in the game. They are a bit silly compared to a sword or a bow, but hey, I let it slip. It is funny though how modern media has turned these middle eastern/asian martial arts weapons to something "cool", "exotic" and "sexy" when historically they were nothing but the poor man's choice, simply the deadliest tool a farmer had access to defend themselves with.

The same goes for the whip. If you want it in game I don't mind. Lore wise it is the preferred "weapon" of choice for Drow Matrons. but remember, a Matron doesn't fight with her whip, she commands. In combat they pretty much always revert to magic attacks instead of hand to hand. And the reason why we so many demons and drow matrons with whips is because we are to associate them with dominatrixes. The whip is a symbol of power, of forced obedience. Not an efficient weapon.

One more thing. I have seen several comments both in here and in the topic about revealing armor, that argues that sexy weapons/armor should be in the game because it's a fantasy game, not a history simulation. True, it is a fantasy game. But it's not one person's fantasy. You can argue that what you want in the game is because it fits your fantasy, just as I can argue it doesn't fit mine.

I'm not a puritan, I understand the need, and the right, for anyone to be able to express themselves through their character. What I object is not the possibility of expression but the overhanging risk of objectification. We should ask our selves, why do I feel the need to be able to play a character in revealing clothing and bdsm equipment? Is it to express myself, or to objectify the character, ie have something sexy to stare at.

EDIT: Oh, can people please stop using "we" without explaining who "we" represent. Yes, it's a normal psychological aspect of humans to either think their opinion adhere to the majority, or to try to assure others that it does. But the behavior of speaking for others without their consent is just rude. So please use "I" or "me" unless you can specifically explain whom your speaking for. The only ones that are allowed to use "pluralis majestatis" are royalty or appointed spokesmen for unions, parties, organizations etc.

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In FR and D&D 5e basic whips cost 4gp> and do 1d4 slash at 2.5m. You name the purpose and their is a whip for it, in LORE, I mean every purpose. I could list a whole bunch but I cannot be arsed. A scythe is just a two handed sickle soooo. It is upto Larian but I think they will be adding all this stuff later. Whipes can entangle, disarm, electrocute, poison, charm, bleed, burn, pull, petrify......

I love whips in D&D.

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Wish they add some unique weapons for backgrounds since tags are no-no for them. Like harpoon for sailor or cane for noble and so on. Could be a small side-quest located in a places which match specific background.

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I think we forgot the most important one. You know what it is.

https://youtu.be/NUY2UkZPPhQ?t=365

A lot of hatred and sexyness in one simple weapon.

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Turning this thread into a discussion of Second World War weapons is not a great idea and will have terrible consequences.

Watching me turn into a frothing fan-boi history nerd boring the arse off the rest of the forum community being one of them. Aside from anything else, at some point tanks will come into the discussion and then you might as well all just call it a night.

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agree that this game needs more guns, and killstreaks + carepackages imo

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We already have nuke.

Precisely. Is it too much to ask that there are a few AR-15s on the nautiloid?

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Turning this thread into a discussion of Second World War weapons is not a great idea and will have terrible consequences.

Watching me turn into a frothing fan-boi history nerd boring the arse off the rest of the forum community being one of them. Aside from anything else, at some point tanks will come into the discussion and then you might as well all just call it a night.

I have an MG42 lying around somewhere. It's actually an incredibly horrible weapon: probably the most ergonomically nasty thing I've encountered.


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I have an MG42 lying around somewhere.

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Right, it's Friday - time to log off the old office comp and check Larian forums for a shot of high-brow word porn. Let's see, what have we got - something, something, something, 'sexy weapons'.

Ok: *click*

Ahhhh... All right, probably everyone here is talking about the whips and so on. But that's some good succubi art. Am I the only one that thinks so? Are there succubi in Forgotten Realms? *googles* Nice.

Ok, this actually has me again thinking of the devil character in BG3, which I felt was pretty weak. If you google forgotten realms devils and read the description, it's actually pretty shrewd character study. See the description under 'hierarchy'. Brilliant. I work with these types every day in the office.

They say the vast majority of CEOs are sociopaths: charismatic, compelling, intelligent, socially savvy - but all they want is your soul. Your chosen profession, in other words, and how it makes the devil/CEO richer.

I think they reveal the devil's form too early. I like the painting behind him, but the camera focuses too lovingly on it. I think the whole scene would be much more powerful if it was wink, wink, nudge, nudge that the guy is a devil, but he stays in bland human form like Gunter O'Dimm from The Witcher 3.

It would be interesting if he was some low class devil trying to move up the ranks and he resentfully targets you, another lowlife in a bad situation. But he's your friend, he's your pal. He definitely doesn't try and come off as smarter than you - the most charismatic people let you think you're both on the same level: you're allies, you're fighting the same war etc.

Then the interesting part is how they're actually just using you to get a 'leg up'
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Anyway, that's just my two cents.

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Originally Posted by vometia
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Turning this thread into a discussion of Second World War weapons is not a great idea and will have terrible consequences.

Watching me turn into a frothing fan-boi history nerd boring the arse off the rest of the forum community being one of them. Aside from anything else, at some point tanks will come into the discussion and then you might as well all just call it a night.

I have an MG42 lying around somewhere. It's actually an incredibly horrible weapon: probably the most ergonomically nasty thing I've encountered.



Just one more option for the wishspell. Not that ergonomic, sadly. Too much ammo to carry around. I will follow the advice of not going into details though. Some of the more exotic weapons would be awesome though. Those listed before on this thread and others. Humanity invented some crazy shit to kill each other.

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Originally Posted by Sadurian
Turning this thread into a discussion of Second World War weapons is not a great idea and will have terrible consequences.

Watching me turn into a frothing fan-boi history nerd boring the arse off the rest of the forum community being one of them. Aside from anything else, at some point tanks will come into the discussion and then you might as well all just call it a night.


forget about tanks. Considering the dimension travel capability of the nautiloid, I expect nothing less than having access to the U.S.S Discovery,, including its full crew and weaponry.

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Turning this thread into a discussion of Second World War weapons is not a great idea and will have terrible consequences.

Watching me turn into a frothing fan-boi history nerd boring the arse off the rest of the forum community being one of them. Aside from anything else, at some point tanks will come into the discussion and then you might as well all just call it a night.


forget about tanks. Considering the dimension travel capability of the nautiloid, I expect nothing less than having access to the U.S.S Discovery,, including its full crew and weaponry.


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How about a Japanese samurai sword?
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katanas should be in game. they were in the older ones iirc.

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I think your first photo is actually the tanto dagger.

I've never been a huge fan of Japanese weaponry. I was playing RPGs in the early/mid 80s when all things Japanese seemed to be the new wave of 'cool', and never got the same feeling of excitement that others seemed to share. Katanas and ninja still leave me cold, I'm afraid.

I did venture into a fantasy Chinese campaign and weaponry, however, and have a strong affection some of the Chinese weapons. For some reason they don't appear on the radar much in the West, certainly nothing like as much as Japanese weapons.

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Originally Posted by Sadurian
I think your first photo is actually the tanto dagger.

I've never been a huge fan of Japanese weaponry. I was playing RPGs in the early/mid 80s when all things Japanese seemed to be the new wave of 'cool', and never got the same feeling of excitement that others seemed to share. Katanas and ninja still leave me cold, I'm afraid.

I did venture into a fantasy Chinese campaign and weaponry, however, and have a strong affection some of the Chinese weapons. For some reason they don't appear on the radar much in the West, certainly nothing like as much as Japanese weapons.


I've never understood where to draw the line between japanese and chinese weaponry myself. It seems to me that many attribute japanese weapons as those used by the samurai, the soldiers, and more ninja-esque weapons as chinese, used by monks and spies. But both China and Japan used soldiers and spies and there are striking simularities between the countries weaponry. After all, they are neighbours smile

If Larian will implement east asian weaponry though, I really want to see wind and fire wheels. Those are strictly chinese. And, unlike chakrams, they were not throwned weapons so easier to animate smile

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Whips should be in the game. Succubi and lolth priestesses are very found of them.

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I think your first photo is actually the tanto dagger.

I've never been a huge fan of Japanese weaponry. I was playing RPGs in the early/mid 80s when all things Japanese seemed to be the new wave of 'cool', and never got the same feeling of excitement that others seemed to share. Katanas and ninja still leave me cold, I'm afraid.

I did venture into a fantasy Chinese campaign and weaponry, however, and have a strong affection some of the Chinese weapons. For some reason they don't appear on the radar much in the West, certainly nothing like as much as Japanese weapons.


I've never understood where to draw the line between japanese and chinese weaponry myself. It seems to me that many attribute japanese weapons as those used by the samurai, the soldiers, and more ninja-esque weapons as chinese, used by monks and spies. But both China and Japan used soldiers and spies and there are striking simularities between the countries weaponry. After all, they are neighbours smile

If Larian will implement east asian weaponry though, I really want to see wind and fire wheels. Those are strictly chinese. And, unlike chakrams, they were not throwned weapons so easier to animate smile



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