Yikes, the things that happen when you log off. So much to respond to apologies in advance if I fail to respond to a point made about one my posts. Wasn't intentional.
And I'm so much in agreement with what @uncle lester @kanisatha and @maximuus have said I can probably get away with saying +1 and I wish I could express myself as well you have
@abits On the 6 party discussion -- we could substitute any 'big forum' issues for that one. My point is really about whether the issues mentioned in the interview are ones that have authentically bubbled up from the forums or if the management has selected a few that they were always planning to comment on. And I think it's the latter -- they were talking about those issues before EA period.
I think we all have a pretty good sense of what the forum wants to see addressed. Indeed one the best sources for that sense of the forum comes from people who want say the forum is not representative of the larger playing public.
@sharp has said
I can tell you without polling the forum, on the whole, the majority of people here want the game to be closer to 5e, have a better camera system, have less surfaces and have a higher party limit.
And I agree with this list even if I (respectfully) believe that it undercuts the main point of the post. Those issues are not like hunger mechanics and not niche for the population of the this forum (or of reddit). Food is something for modders to deal with while surfaces and party size aren't.
@abits has said:
if everything I knew about the world was based on the post on the Bg3 section of these forums, I would say Solasta is probably the greatest RPG ever made and has millions of sales. I would also think Crpgs are the most popular genre of video games and that most players only care about D&D mechanics.
And @maximuus
things like party size or HP bloat have more activity than other threads.
So we've got a good list. Sure a poll would nail it down but I think we have general agreement on the big issues:
party size, D&D ruleset and surfaces. I'd also throw in
party management -- that thread is only as short as it is because no one is willing to take the "party management is great" side.
And those issues weren't addressed.
Now @abits if I were you I would be starting to feel a bit frustrated because you devoted considerable effort to the post that started this discussion and I ignored its major motif. And to be honest I did so deliberately because it takes the conversation in a direction that I don't feel entirely comfortable with. I try not to refer to people's personalities when making points. But, because you put in the effort, and because I sincerely appreciate your posts and your willingness to engage I'll see if I can address your main point without discussing personality.
I see Vinke as a CEO engaged in viral marketing. I think marketing falls into a no mans land between honesty and dishonesty. In the U.S. this actually a legal defense -- the puffery defense. We just expect that marketers are engaging in a type of discourse that is strategic in nature and does not adhere to the same truth criteria that other discourses do. The Onion has been mocking this for decades with it's claim to "America's Finest News Source" -- a claim that is entirely legal under the puffery defense. Every pizza chain CEO is going to claim to have the best pizza made with the freshest ingredients and every video game CEO is going to say that they are taking feedback very seriously. I think it's a good practice to be skeptical of such claims and to ask if the statements accord with evidence.
Nice guy trying to sell me something might capture it.
I might need to make another post about this -- because it's a difficult point to make briefly -- but I think it's a mistake to ever come to a position based upon the imaginary opinions of other people who are not like us. I think that leads to a way of thinking that abstracts people from themselves; it's a dissociative mode of thinking. We know what we like and we should express those opinions -- let the people who don't like RPGs speak for themselves, we don't have to imagine them into the conversation.
Incidentally, if you do agree with the list -- that the forum wants to see
megathreads on the D&D ruleset, sufaces, party size and party management you should contribute to this thread so we can get those threads:
https://forums.larian.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=702537#Post702537
