Larian Studios Forums Baldur's Gate III Baldur's Gate III - General Take on tadpole start

It feels so akward.

What are the chances of being able to choose your begininng problem?

For example.... well, the origin characters.

No idea what shadow hearts emo problem is, and frankly don't care, F***ing snowflake, and lae'zal is on a permenant period, so whatever....

But the others?

Gale - doesn't need a tadpole problem, he needs help.
Wyll - doesn't need a tadpole problem, he needs help.
Asteron - doesn't need a tadpole, he needs help.

Why railroad these characters into joining, back off the tadpole for them, and allow RP?

Or allow us to choose our problem at character creation, and have the nautloid crash be a catalyst for the start of the game.... allowing us to pick a character that was never on the ship, but has gales problem, or wyll's problem, or asteron's problem, just minus the tadpole.
Or even Karloch's problem, escaping avernus.
Or being a escaped drow.
Or being a servant of the absolute and hunting the escapees instead.
Or (insert for backlash from BG3 community, and approval from BG 1/2 community) a Bhaalspawn.

etc. something to open up character creation and customization.

Just a thread. A thought.

No to all of this because it doesn't work within the context of a video game.
No developer is going to create a multitude of completely fleshed-out potential starts and backstories because it's impossible and pointless.
The permutations for just one scenario of this scale are massive enough.
What you're proposing would be in development hell for a decade because it's impossible to design.

Also, this belongs in the suggestion forums.

larian pls change storycompletly

Its done because each of those is an origin character with their own full story. Playable as main characters. And as companions.
Could be done better but the main idea wont change.

...op pls tell me, i must know... did you pick permenant period as your beginning problem?

The tadpole is the reason everyone is gathered in that area in the first place. Getting rid of it would make even less sense for half of the cast.

General discussion works too.

Yes, it is alot to ask. Larian will do what they will do.

No, tadpoles arent the only reason everyone is there, pay attention to other npcs.
Avernus escapees. Zhanturim. Drow coming in from underarm. Shadow druids. Take your pick. Its already there.

Larian has already laid the ground work to take it many different directions.

So get over the head in butt approach.

Again. Wrong. The foundation is there for other origin problems.

No. Everyone else already picked. Option grayed out.

Without a tadpole, only Gale or maybe Wyll (not for all characters) would make sense to travel with us.
Astarion would have absolutely no reason to travel with us. For him, it would only be an unnecessary risk of someone finding him drinking blood.
He also has no hope that we will help him defeat his master, as he mentioned, his master could sneak into the camp and murder us all.

Asterion would have a reason, being vamp spawn. Just wouldn't be the tadpole.
True vampires are thoughtful beings, are aren't always just into random murders. just sometimes.

As stated more than once. The foundation is there.

Your vamp Spawn would burn up in the sun without his tadpole........remember you crashed in the day and he was found outside in the sun.

Normal tadpoles, he would still burn up. Normal tadpole, eating undead flesh, would likely die, undead don't typically turn.

Loophole? netherese magic. It's not the tadpole protecting the vamp kin. it's the netherese magic. Do you know the lore behind netherese magic?

Again. the foundation is still there.

What would that be the reason?

Asterion found a netherese scroll. used it. funny affect because he is only vamp spawn instead of full vamp.
immune to sunlight. will returned. master out of picture. as it is with tadpole now.

Or vamp master sent asterion to find something for him, and the party, being level ones, are so far below his notice that he told asterion he did not care, and to keep a low profile, but to find (we will put the nightsong here for a point, but does not have to be the nightsong)

Vamp master is not engaged in just watching asterion all the time. he has other matters as well. and if asterion caught and killed, he turns to ash. vamp master doesn't care all THAT much at the moment. Asterion is small fry, and you are small fry.

vamp might even be curious about tadpoles, and sent asterion out to interact with people with tadpoles.... but the vamp master does not want to be directly in contact with soomething that might go mind flayer. That would be a risk. But asterion in contact with it? sure. who cares. lets see what happens.

So you just change his whole story.

Im thinking, instead of the tadpole start the pc should start in a castle with their foster father telling them they have to leave suddenly. Also they should have a lovable but sometimes annoying half sister. The foundations of this alternate beginning are all there. Read up on netherese lore if you don't believe me.

Not sure if its in the Netherlands lore or not. It might be. But whatever floats your boat.
Just a thread and a thought. Having everything railroaded together is kinda meh.


So you just change his whole story.
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If you go the Netherlands scroll route. A minor change. Instead of tadpole, netherese scroll.

The end point being. More options beyond everything being railroaded together by tadpoles.

If you dont like the thought, thats your choice to make.
If you want all the choice removed and it turned into more a interactive movie much like final fantasy games, also your call.

Beyond that. This is early access. Nothing is set in stone yet.

If the annoying half-sister turns up then I need the opportunity to commit demi-sororicide at the first opportunity.