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Originally Posted by Terminator2020
Cyberpunk 2077 is released tomorrow. Does not matter I am more interested in Baldurs Gate 3. I hope they manage to release full Baldurs Gate 3 towards end of year 2021 though 2022 is possible.

Vampire Bloodlines 2? It is dead for me could not care less. They have laid out key staff and hired a feminist or SJW.

buzz words add little to a conversation. rather than lump them in with some overarching group that instigates debate, stick to things they specifically did or do that don't gel with you.

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Originally Posted by AzAthena
Originally Posted by Terminator2020
Cyberpunk 2077 is released tomorrow. Does not matter I am more interested in Baldurs Gate 3. I hope they manage to release full Baldurs Gate 3 towards end of year 2021 though 2022 is possible.

Vampire Bloodlines 2? It is dead for me could not care less. They have laid out key staff and hired a feminist or SJW.

buzz words add little to a conversation. rather than lump them in with some overarching group that instigates debate, stick to things they specifically did or do that don't gel with you.

This youtube video is based on facts and gives background... there are on youtube more negative videos.

The RPG In A LOT Of Trouble - Vampire The Masquerade: Bloodlines 2

Vampire Bloodlines 2 could have been released earlier, but no they "need" to change it.

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Originally Posted by Terminator2020
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Originally Posted by Terminator2020
Cyberpunk 2077 is released tomorrow. Does not matter I am more interested in Baldurs Gate 3. I hope they manage to release full Baldurs Gate 3 towards end of year 2021 though 2022 is possible.

Vampire Bloodlines 2? It is dead for me could not care less. They have laid out key staff and hired a feminist or SJW.

buzz words add little to a conversation. rather than lump them in with some overarching group that instigates debate, stick to things they specifically did or do that don't gel with you.

This youtube video is based on facts and gives background... there are on youtube more negative videos.

The RPG In A LOT Of Trouble - Vampire The Masquerade: Bloodlines 2

Vampire Bloodlines 2 could have been released earlier, but no they "need" to change it.


so watching that through, it is definitely unfortunate for both fans and series in general to have these kind of situations.

this gave infinitely more insight to the reasons to lose sight of the project than your initial comment, and amazingly they never even brought up replacement bashing. thanks for giving me something real to look at

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Originally Posted by AzAthena
Originally Posted by Terminator2020
Cyberpunk 2077 is released tomorrow. Does not matter I am more interested in Baldurs Gate 3. I hope they manage to release full Baldurs Gate 3 towards end of year 2021 though 2022 is possible.

Vampire Bloodlines 2? It is dead for me could not care less. They have laid out key staff and hired a feminist or SJW.

buzz words add little to a conversation. rather than lump them in with some overarching group that instigates debate, stick to things they specifically did or do that don't gel with you.

It might be buzzwords, but considering that a similar thing happened to the Pen&Paper version of Vampires where the writers got axed because they were not sensitive enough and too edgy (For a game which main point is being edgy) it can still be true.

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i will totes agree, especially as someone who has worked as a human rights advocate, that modern culture is a shit show to work with.

you can't be to far in any direction without irritating some community, who then will chaos bolt you for the issue they see.

however to stay so neutral, your end result is stale and bland.

I am fully in support of rpgs and fantasy worlds for this reason... its fantasy, and nothing is without dark sides.

especially something like WoD games, its a dark world, it should be. its fallen so to speak

naturally people will righteous/self righteous values and in between would be upset by it. so i think its important to let these games and genres continue as intended. and keep our views of a perfect society aside, given the setting, and given that we have no real right to assume any of us as humans have any clue how things truly should be.

i equally agree that causing harm to anyone in real life, is very different than fantasy games where these events occur.

The hardest part of watching the culture shift over the last decade is the growing inability due to publicity to differentiate between fantasy and reality.

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of course online games where in a fantasy setting some choose to cause real world harm is a seperate scenario, and im not a fan of the hostility growing in nerd culture as it becomes less of an outcast market and more mainstream

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Originally Posted by AzAthena


The hardest part of watching the culture shift over the last decade is the growing inability due to publicity to differentiate between fantasy and reality.



I have the feeling this won't get any better : https://www.esrb.org/ratings/36949/Cyberpunk+2077/

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jeez the esrb is a haunting memory from days working with gamestop.

--typo fix

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