Originally Posted by Vhaldez
debauchery.


Excuse me? You do realise poly means "love" and not "sex", right? That said even in mono intimacy is important regardless. Does this offend you?

Here, let me give you an idea of where I'm coming from. See how romance is done in BG2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPST9bJfCpo

BG3 is still in development. So we've yet to see if it can deliever on the emotional impact strongly. Some people get closer through debauchery, like Lae'zel. Even though it might seem otherwise. She likes to be in control, you're hers, obeying is appreciated (because people like it when you make it about what they want). Will also admire you if you challenge her. She finds safety in that.

This is very different then, say, Shadowheart. Who is more on the "afraid" side of things. It makes her much less direct. And she's used to loss. Makes her much more well guarded. So she's slower to do anything with you. Let alone sleep with her.

I used to go with Aerie from BG2. But looking back I realise she's very emotion and out of control at times. I used to not like jaheira at all. But now I can that I misunderstood her and have grown to appreciate her. She'll have lost her recent husband, catches you in an act of debauchery and she'll STILL be udnerstanding and patient with you. Even if she might struggle. Don't think that scene is shown in the vid. I skimmed parts because I played the game before and romanced her already. But you can clearly see how the characters develop a strong relaitonship over multiple scenes.

Which is very different then how BG3 is doing it. You still get those moments but it's all "Scripted". Very dependent on being at place X to trigger conversation Y. Instead of letting the characters talk to you in their own time and discuss things unrelated to the immediate situation.

It's not that it's "about debauchery". It's that you get so little time with the characters due to most of the important conversations happening at camp. As a result it ALL feels more "crammed in". The fact that you can get closer to people quicker is fine. This happens very often in life without it being about "just sex". That said I do think someone like Shadowheart could do with taking longer to do anything physical with. Due to her much more well guarded nature.

Regardless of the character you interact with though it should always be possible to reach an understanding with them. Which is something I just can't do with Aerie at times. With Jaheira I can ALWAYS reach an understanding. Regardless of the situation. As unpleasant as events can be with Aerie though the fact that some people are weaker and refuse to listen to reason when they get that overwhelmed does make sense. So despite that Aerie is still a very believable character. But if we get someone like her in BG3 I would hope there's room to "Resolve misunderstandings". Which is impossible to do in BG2. Which simply locks you out of talking about any further feelings at all.

If I pointed out the drow with Jaheira it wasn't to focus on the debauchery. No, it was to point out Jaheira's understanding nature. And let's not pretend that people won't get jealous and make it about their OWN debauchery if you're sleeping with others. That would simply be unrealistic.

Last edited by Taramafor; 16/11/20 04:43 AM.