I don't mean to criticize, they were different times. You know what got me into BG forums in the first place? A bug! I got stuck on something in BG I, can't remember what it was, and I was so frustrated that I was about to throw the CD's out. But somehow I found out about the online forums, and sure enough I got some help there so that I could use the console commands to fix the problem and continue the game. Thanks, Tiffin! I see the same community thing going strong here, it's just that Larian is more in the background, just as I would probably do.