Originally Posted by Uncle Lester


This exactly. And that even goes for people AND their characters who are in or aren't opposed to romantic relationships, but don't really need or want it in their RPG (for players) or current predicament/context (for characters). Like a young, innocent halfling girl. She may wait for a kind love of her life somewhere in the future once she decides to settle down, but an exotic dancer seductive vision? Just REALLY out of place. And not in a good way.

And, let's be honest: what "adventurer" worth his salt would go "ah, yes, whatever you say, succubus-like and clearly suspicious sexy vision"? The poor schmuck would need to have a bunch of dicks for a brain! That's how you get screwed over (and not just literally) in a fantasy setting.


You are acting like the game doesn’t give you the option to deny and reject the Dreamed. Seeing as you can, I’m not sure what your problem is.

Originally Posted by Zarna

This is annoying. I have plenty of characters that would be happy to use the tadpole but why does there have to be forced romantic interest attached to it? I could maybe see one of my characters having a quick tumble with barmaids on occasion but romance? He would run like hell. The rest have more important things to worry about.

I wonder if a better example to use for people would be if they forced a straight dream person on a gay player or vice versa? There would be complaining for sure. Especially if it locked you out of content. Only thing with this example is that there would be offended and traumatized people, of which I am neither. It is just that the majority of the world can understand and feel romance, hard to explain anything from the other side.


You haven’t seen the dreams yet, but I’m just going to let you know that your assumptions about them are not accurate. The Dreamed acts seductively towards you, but you have the option to not play along.

Originally Posted by Zarna
[quote=Warlocke]
I will play again to see more of these dreams but I have yet to see how the dream person was seducing me with anything. The point of the third party would be to have more freedom with the purpose of the dream person. Wouldn't even need a third party if they could modify the creation of them a bit.

I am good at headcanoning a lot of stuff but romance is not one of these things. In every game I have played, whether DnD, LARP, or video games, none of my characters have ever had desire for anyone. In games like the DA series I would pick a favourite character and do the romance stuff with them because I felt locked out of content if I didn't. Never felt any attachment to any of them more than friend or someone to help. This stuff doesn't offend me or make me uncomfortable, it is just that my brain is not wired to understand or feel it.

I haven't played that far in BG1 but I do know who Sarevok is, and I never headcanon anything for existing characters if they have an actual story. Not seeing the comparison either because he is introduced to you far past character creation. We are being told here at the start that we have to have a romantic desire and to basically deal with it, this is very limiting.


Actually, Sarevok is introduced in the opening movie of BG1 where he kills a Bhaalspawn in the top of the Iron Throne building, before character creation.

But my point is that you don’t need to headcanon anything about the Dreamed. There is no indication that it is a real person you know. It’s probably just a form that the Dreamed assumes to seduce you, and you have the option to distrust and deny the Dreamed, so I’m not sure what the issue is. If you deny them I’m pretty sure you still get your True Soul power. I think you only miss out of that if you never use the tadpole at all.

Last edited by Warlocke; 25/11/20 02:37 PM.