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Just in case there is still any question about *clutches pearls and gasps* nekkid bodies in the game... as opposed to say, murdering children, slavery, wholesale genocide and canibalism...


This is all over the internet and should give everyone a rough idea of how terrible the boobies will be. Don't want anyone else being shocked by a nipple after betraying and murdering a whole city full of people - to my knowledge that's the only way to get the scene in question? Aside from the rating warning at the start, the pertinent info is around the 7 minute mark. Oh and in the description.

https://youtu.be/qYD5HHKmVT8

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Originally Posted by Stikyard
More class options > animated sex scenes.

This is a false dichotomy, because this is not an either or situation. They have already stated they will implement all of the classes and the sub classes within the PHB. It isn't done yet, but it will be on release. Even if this was not the case however, the people responsible for doing animations are not the people responsible for implementing classes, those are 2 completely different skill sets. Animators are not suddenly going to become programmers just because sex scenes are removed.

Personally, my bigger issue with romances is that they feel poorly written. The characters are written to be player-sexual, rather than having their own defined preferences. This makes them much more one dimensional than they could otherwise be and takes away from them as characters.

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Sacrificing resources for something that isn't even important and restricts your market.

This is also untrue. Sex sells, if it didn't, it would not be in the game. This isn't some newfound revelation either, developers are very much aware of it. Here is an example of the lead developer from Pillar's of Eternity talking about it.

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The relationships are horribly written, they just throw themselves at you for no reason. And it does restrict your market. I would have purchased two more copies myself.

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Originally Posted by Stikyard
More class options > animated sex scenes. Sacrificing resources for something that isn't even important and restricts your market.

That's not really how resource allocation works; and "isn't that important" is a rather subjective matter.


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Did anyone buy the game because it promised sex?

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Originally Posted by Stikyard
More class options > animated sex scenes. Sacrificing resources for something that isn't even important and restricts your market.

Originally Posted by Stikyard
The relationships are horribly written, they just throw themselves at you for no reason. And it does restrict your market. I would have purchased two more copies myself.


Can you just go ahead and say that you made a parenting error and be done with it? The amount of pride and entitlement here is staggering.
There's this underlying expectation in your last few comments where you're trying to inspire some action because you're convinced that pointing out that "the company's bottom line may be affected" is going to cause a change that suits you because you're not ready to have a conversation about sex with your child yet.

Larian isn't going to panic just because you brazenly disregard ratings and warnings and therefore won't be buying 36 copies of the game from them.
Swen isn't sitting in his office right now clutching his pearls over this no matter how many more times you mention that their audacity is causing them to "miss out on potential sales."
They know what they're doing. For every parent who doesn't understand how the ESRB works and gets flustered that their precious child was subjected to something shocking, there are ten more people out there willing to buy it because of that something shocking.


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Pornhub is free.

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It does take resources away from anything else because they had to pay someone to animate awkward sex scenes in a D&D game.

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True in the long term, perhaps. But it's too late to make that change now. If they cut the sex scenes right now, fired the people responsible for finishing them, and used the saved money to hire or, more realistically, train people to do new classes or whatever, they wouldn't see gains for months, and this would require throwing away a lot of work. The ROI is not only negative, it's severely negative.

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Originally Posted by Stikyard
It does take resources away from anything else because they had to pay someone to animate awkward sex scenes in a D&D game.


Ugh it's really not how it works. It's like saying putting outdoor seating in a new restaurant is "taking away from the kitchen budget". No it's not. They are DIFFERENT resource allocations with DIFFERENT budgets. It absolutely doesn't take away from anything else. If it was left out of the game, those resources simply would not have been budgeted for in the first place so the funds would not have been raised in the first place. They wouldn't have been entered on a cost benefit proposal, and investors would not have had to cough up as much money for "the game production".

To say that the theoretically non budgeted, non financed, and therefore essentially NON EXISTENT funds are being 'stolen' from 'more important' parts of the game is beyond being a stretch to being straight up fiction.

That's just not how business and finance works.

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This game was going to sell. You had Larian / Divinity merged with cult classic Baldurs Gate. You didnt need cheap naked gimmicks to sell this game.

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Originally Posted by Stikyard
I don't mind adult themes in my games generally but, I don't understand why I got soft porn going on in my D&D game. I had to end my sons game after titties were all over the screen... IDK, wtf?

Are we talking about the harpy boobies? if so, they can harpy charm me all day.... and night. On a serious note, the game rated M. Your son seeing boobs; is entirely your fault. Also, they are breasts. Get over it

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Okay guys, I'm locking this thread.

I allowed it to go on in the hope that you could wind your necks in a bit, but clearly that isn't going to happen any time soon.

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