Man, one good thing about Star Wars and sci-fi, people don't try to inject diversification for the sake of diversification into everything nearly as much.
If you've read the thread or even thought about the issue for more than ten seconds it should be clear that "diversification for the sake of diversification" is not what is going on here (and it's laughable that you're holding up the entire genre of science fiction as though it hasn't also had it's issues with representation). If you really want to peddle whataboutism might as well do it to Wizards of the Coast:
Dungeons & Dragons teaches that diversity is strength, for only a diverse group of adventurers can overcome the many challenges a D&D story presents. In that spirit, making D&D as welcoming and inclusive as possible has moved to the forefront of our priorities over the last six years. We’d like to share with you what we’ve been doing, and what we plan to do in the future to address legacy D&D content that does not reflect who we are today. We recognize that doing this isn’t about getting to a place where we can rest on our laurels but continuing to head in the right direction. We feel that being transparent about it is the best way to let our community help us to continue to calibrate our efforts.
One of the explicit design goals of 5th edition D&D is to depict humanity in all its beautiful diversity by depicting characters who represent an array of ethnicities, gender identities, sexual orientations, and beliefs. We want everyone to feel at home around the game table and to see positive reflections of themselves within our products. “Human” in D&D means everyone, not just fantasy versions of northern Europeans, and the D&D community is now more diverse than it’s ever been.
I am not of course repeating myself again it cold be that my english is not perfect because is not the primary languange however i may give you a friendly advise for the future. Debating and disagree on something is perfectly fine as long every part does it respectfully i noticed you got maybe a little upset and this is not how a conversation between civil people should go
Some friendly advice back; there is nothing wrong with people getting upset or angry at certain views, and telling people to "be civil" or "calm down" is a common tactic to try to discredit them. Just look at Colin Kaepernick who protested civil rights in an incredibly calm, non-disruptive way and yet he was hounded for not being respectful or civil.
Originally Posted by Rieline
My reasons are under the nose of everyone that knows well D&D or at least have some degree of knowledge about it. The main reason i oppose to this idea in the end is just one logic one. Elves are not human and they never been human apply human enthnicy to elves to have more inclusivity have no sense at the same manner the elves heads that are currently in the game for bot players and npc have no sense.
Elves are not presented as aliens, as has been pointed out if any of these elves walked down the street, minus the ears, you'd think nothing of it. If Larian had decided to create novel elven facial features that don't align with any RL ethnicities then you'd have more of a leg to stand on. But they've not done that, they've not indicated they're going to do that, they've made elves with caucasian features. In which case the RL inclusivity argument definitely holds. See above for the statement from wizards.
Originally Posted by Rieline
What's next? "I don't feel represented by Githianki heads i want more latin faces for them that don't have a bat upturned nose or is not diverse enough?" or "I want to make an Halfling that is tall like an human?"
I would also not put in doubt the moral integrity of who disagree with me.
Your moral integrity isn' in question because you disagree, it's because of how you disagree. Seriously, a slippery slope argument? Asking for a more diverse range of real ethnicities in races that have clearly been based on a real ethnicity is not at all the same as asking that species that do have significantly novel features appear human.
Heh, I read this post and I was like, "Oh nice, here's another person being reasonable, articulate, and thoughtful in the thread. This is great." Then I looked to see who it was, and OF COURSE it was you, Braxton. Sad that there wasn't another person on the right side, but always glad to read one of your posts nonetheless.
The things you're saying make so much clear and obvious sense, it's amazing how many people come out of the woodwork to disagree.
