Originally Posted by Sordak
i dont even think there needs to be a distinciton between "based on dnd" and "dnd"
everyone houserules in dnd.

This may not be a charitable interpretation but thats the internet for you. As i pointed out before, "feats" are an optional rule in 5e. Thats not exactly houserules but that means that in order to play the game "Properly" , i.e. how every single DM seems to run the game at least from my anecdotal evidence of /tg/ and other roleplaying oriented circles, you need to extend the basic ruleset.

Which leads me to the conclusion that people angry about larian doing just that, are just angry at larian and either dont play dnd at all, play another edition of it or simply are only used to ADnD 2E based video games and assume RAW 5e is somehow the same thing.


I don't that's right at all. There is a meaningful distinction between optional rules and house rules. Feats are an optional rule -- people like them and they are in the game. Dip is a home rule that gives anyone with a candle abilities that should be handled by martial cantrips and arcane archer features. Of course dip is easy enough to ignore but it's OP cheese.

Same goes for the weight of barrels -- this patch made it easier to ignore barrels and that's a good thing.

I actually don't see lots of sincere anger. This is a game, discussions about the rules are fun smile

On the other posts, no not trying to rile you up, yes I know that warlocks made it into 3.5 but they were pretty different. And as someone who has DM'd an number of games yes, everyone uses house rules. I'm pretty sure you wouldn't like the house rules I used with 3.0 because it made more 2nd ed. One of the things I liked about BG is that it seemed to implement all the house rules I tended to use. I mean did anyone really implement the demihuman level caps? How many DMs were Gygax level hardasses about when you could use backstab? Bioware got it right. Larian is getting better but they need to move further away from DOS.