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I'm serious I've tried everything to get into the under dark via the well in the Blighted village. It's so dark in there that even with lighting spells you can barely see shit. Not to mention that it's confusing and the 3 plus minute load times are ridiculous There has got to be an easier way to get in. as this is what frustrates folks about names. After all aren't they suppose to be fun? I'm not saying that they should be super easy but Hell you made it next to impossible to get into.
Is there an easier way other than that damn well that won't take forever and a day to get into the area?

Thanks

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The Underdark is kind of like this epic subterrain territory which is maybe not supposed to be that easily reached?
With enough time you will find a way eventually.

Currently it feels just right. Its not like we enter a treasure vault of course.
But finding a way into something so famous in Forgotten Realms should not be too easy.
Not every second cave we come into leads into the Hoard of a Dragon either.

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Originally Posted by JustAnotherBaldu
The Underdark is kind of like this epic subterrain territory which is maybe not supposed to be that easily reached?
With enough time you will find a way eventually.

Currently it feels just right. Its not like we enter a treasure vault of course.
But finding a way into something so famous in Forgotten Realms should not be too easy.
Not every second cave we come into leads into the Hoard of a Dragon either.



Yes, but it shouldn't be damn near impossible to get to either it takes away the fun of the game especially when you've got a matriarch with 6 times your hit points and can take out a 3rd level in one hit. To me, that is plain overkill. I got tired of spending 4 or 5 minutes just to reload the damn game. And no I'm a full level 3 party my main PC is a Ranger/knight with when buffed out has around a level 20 AC. And yet the Matriach spider which has over 100 hit pts is able to get a Critical hit and instantly kill my Ranger/knight or take her down to 1 or 2 pts and if I hit the matriarch I might do 2 or 3 pts worth of damage meanwhile she's done as much as 30 plus damage in 1 hit. How is this overkill suppose to make for enjoyable gameplay? To me this isn't enjoyable and if this is the way for which Larian makes their games it will be the last one I ever purchase from them.

I'm not saying that the game has to be easy but it doesn't have to be overkill either because both of these ways make a game for which can not be properly enjoyed.

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The real problem here is the spoilers, not the access to the underdark itself. In a perfect world, every player starting the game should not even be aware they can go to the underdark. It is such a mythic place for surfacers. They have to struggle hard to reach it if they so want to. And the only thing they know, really, is the fact it's damn dangerous but full of treasures.

So the best thing is to be patient. Of course, there are some players out there who would prefer to get to the final boss of a game when they just started it, but in a RPG like this one, it's like missing everything it has to offer.

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I literally can get there with jump and feather fall in like 5 jumps.

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in the 3e NWN campaign video game by bioware the underdark was reserved for lvl 20+ epic characters due to the insane levels of CR the average monster has down there, almost everything down there can kill you in a variety of horrible ways, I loved how my first venture into the underdark in this game I was like "wait I'm only lvl 4 and I'm already in the underdark getting my daily dose of CBT by mr minotaur"

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Originally Posted by DragonMaster69

Yes, but it shouldn't be damn near impossible to get to either it takes away the fun of the game especially when you've got a matriarch with 6 times your hit points and can take out a 3rd level in one hit.
>>Fastfowarding >>
I'm not saying that the game has to be easy but it doesn't have to be overkill either because both of these ways make a game for which can not be properly enjoyed.


So you talk about the hardcore entrance that was shown to us also in the developer stream back then. grin

You dared to fight THAT THING with a lvl.3 group? I knew I'm a pussy. ^_^
I would never dare to face that thing with anything but lvl.4.

And also my tactic would be to set that thing on fire and just throw smokepowder barrels.
Maybe Arcane Missles for a Mage but everyone else utterly needs to throw these C4.
But I am also an Arachnophobe so I want it dead asap anyways.

You know that below-the-village-entrance is the hardest of them all, right?
I believe you also need featherfall otherwise your group will arrive in the underdark as corpses I believe. As in it is a 200 meters fall or something.
This is the hardest entrance.


I think the easiest entrance is the one in Ethels cave.
If you kill Ethel, which is fairly easy I would say and wander through the illusionary wall in her cavesystem, you arrive in the underdark pretty easy.
But beware if you still have the unique debuff just for laying eyes on Ethel.
This landshark thing is using acid attacks, which are amplified by the debuff to oneshots.

But in general I believe this is the quickest entrance to the Underdark.

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Originally Posted by DragonMaster69
There has got to be an easier way to get in.

There are 3 enters to Underdark ...

I dint have problem with light in any of them so far. O_o
And spider matriarch is perfectly killable with level 3, you just need to use a little more tactics than stronger and better equipped characters ... after all, underdark is dotted with the bones of careless and unprepared adventurers.


I still dont understand why cant we change Race for our hirelings. frown
Lets us play Githyanki as racist as they trully are! frown
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Originally Posted by Ianthebea
in the 3e NWN campaign video game by bioware the underdark was reserved for lvl 20+ epic characters due to the insane levels of CR the average monster has down there, almost everything down there can kill you in a variety of horrible ways, I loved how my first venture into the underdark in this game I was like "wait I'm only lvl 4 and I'm already in the underdark getting my daily dose of CBT by mr minotaur"



I vaguely remember that there even though its been years since I've played that one there. Just the entrance is protected by a boss with 100 hp more than you and can summon more spiders and they usually have you hurting before the boss spider gets near you

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if u cant even kill the spider matriarch i dont know if you're going to like what you find down there...

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There are 4 entrances to the underdark I can think of (and I feel like I'm missing some):

1 - fall in from the phase spider cave. Hard route, as you land in a pretty tough encounter
2 - Teleport from Auntie Ethel's cave. Although I have yet to be able to get through that door, it seems bugged.
3 - There is an elevator from the Zhent hideout. This gives you much better positioning on the hard encounter you drop into from option 1.
4 - You can stroll in from the basement under the goblin camp/old Selune temple.


1 is the roughest way to go, and that's the way the OP is trying to go.

I would wait until the party is 4th level before tackling the underdark.

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The easiest way to get in is to go through the goblin encampment. Play as Drow or disguise as one, go to Priestess Gut's room (no need to talk to her), sneak past the guard until you end up in the puzzle chamber, then do the puzzle and enter.

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Four four four, ways to go! Four fun ways to go!

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Ok I'll try the gnome way when I get 4th level. Now one other question is these Mephits at the twisted tree with the two wood woads how do they keep multiplying are they just using mirror image spell or what? Seems I take down 1 or two of them and 3 more produce than what I had before. What is the quickest way to take them down? thanks for your help and suggestions

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Originally Posted by DragonMaster69
Ok I'll try the gnome way when I get 4th level. Now one other question is these Mephits at the twisted tree with the two wood woads how do they keep multiplying are they just using mirror image spell or what? Seems I take down 1 or two of them and 3 more produce than what I had before. What is the quickest way to take them down? thanks for your help and suggestions

There are Ancient Mephits summoning Young Mephits each turn. Kill Ancients first.

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[ UNAVOIDABLE MILD SPOILERS, but I keep it limited ]

The passage under the Selune ruined temple, also known as the current 'goblin camp', is the coolest !
You have to search the rooms quite a bit in there, but worth it.

I had fun doing the floor puzzle (which sadly can be bypassed, but I shall say no more: NO spoilers here please).

It leads down to a special defensive gate created by worshippers of Selune, to block the creatures of the underdark from coming up through the temple.

It does not mean the "welcoming committee of the underdark" is more friendly than the well drop, but it is a much cooler experience in my opinion and you can plan ahead ...

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Originally Posted by alice_ashpool
if u cant even kill the spider matriarch i dont know if you're going to like what you find down there...


This. Underdark has lv5 monsters.

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Originally Posted by alice_ashpool
if u cant even kill the spider matriarch i dont know if you're going to like what you find down there...

I see your point but, to be fair to DragonMaster69, I was wiped by that mama spider the first time even though I have tons of D&D 5e and CRPG experience.

I was level 2 :P, totally surprised, and stuck in a dead end ! The second time (multiplayer) and third time (sp), with better positioning and levels 3+, it was fine.
Of course, there is an obvious trick once you know the place a bit, but I do not want to spoil the tactic.

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Originally Posted by Baraz

I see your point but, to be fair to DragonMaster69, I was wiped by that mama spider the first time even though I have tons of D&D 5e and CRPG experience.

Somebody who
willfully transformed herself into a spider matriarch
should be tough I think.

You have to research the strategy first,

get some poison resistance may be. Destroy the eggs, you can snipe them with a bow without triggering combat. Drop that thing into the Underdark. On my last run my ranger actually managed to destroy the web both he and the spider mama were standing, both falling down and taking damage. That damage seems to be a % of your total hit points, meaning the mama spider was hit for 40hp+ while he was hit for like 12, a couple of hits after that and it was a victory.

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