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Originally Posted by alice_ashpool
if u cant even kill the spider matriarch i dont know if you're going to like what you find down there...

Minotaurs gangbang laugh laugh laugh

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I mean there are plenty of other routes into the underdark atm that don't involve a giant boss block which is kinda puzzling to me as some players as it stands now could just stumble into it when clearly unprepared.

also the spider matriarch is not as difficult when she stands on the web bridges and you can take away 1/3 of her total health bar just desotrying the webbed bridges she stands on / teleports to, there are several safe spots that are completely out of LOS from the upper floors forcing her AI To teleport around to get into LOS at which point you can burn the bridge she stands on and boom 40 dmg + prone

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Originally Posted by jmos
There are 4 entrances to the underdark I can think of (and I feel like I'm missing some):[/spoiler]

[quote=jmos]2 - Teleport from Auntie Ethel's cave. Although I have yet to be able to get through that door, it seems bugged.

That one is easy. Do not click "on" the door, just scroll the camera through it and click on the other side when wearing Ethels mask.
Do not equip Ethels Mask if she is still alive.
But you knew that already. ; )

Originally Posted by jmos
3 - There is an elevator from the Zhent hideout. This gives you much better positioning on the hard encounter you drop into from option 1.

WHAT!?
You serious? Where?
Gotta do research fast.
Where the hell!? I was in there 3 times and I did not found it. WHERE. A juicy new discovery! ^_^

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Thanks for the suggestion on the mask, not sure I tried that one. I tried it when she was alive, so yeah, I know what that does!

If you want spoilers on 3:

In the Zhent hideout, near the back where the two metal grate doors and the button to turn on the mines are - as you are looking at that wall, follow it down to the left. You'll get to a area where the path turns and starts heading toward a bridge. At that turn, hug the wall, and you'll do a perception check to notice the wall is an illusion. Behind the illusion is the elevator. It drops you right onto the Zhent storage area in the Underdark behind the Minotaurs. You can then get in some shots on them from above, making that encounter much easier. You can certainly find a YouTube video showing you exactly where this is if my description sucks.

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Originally Posted by jmos

If you want spoilers on 3:

In the Zhent hideout, near the back where the two metal grate doors and the button to turn on the mines are - as you are looking at that wall, follow it down to the left. You'll get to a area where the path turns and starts heading toward a bridge. At that turn, hug the wall, and you'll do a perception check to notice the wall is an illusion. Behind the illusion is the elevator. It drops you right onto the Zhent storage area in the Underdark behind the Minotaurs. You can then get in some shots on them from above, making that encounter much easier. You can certainly find a YouTube video showing you exactly where this is if my description sucks.

Wow, did not know that one ! And I thought I had done a completionist run of Act 1 :P

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Originally Posted by JustAnotherBaldu

That one is easy. Do not click "on" the door, just scroll the camera through it and click on the other side when wearing Ethels mask.

Is this the door from the area with masked guys to another area with poison clouds? Just how do you end up there with hag already dead? Unless you killed her right there in the house before she managed to vanish?

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Originally Posted by Choosen of KEK
Originally Posted by JustAnotherBaldu

That one is easy. Do not click "on" the door, just scroll the camera through it and click on the other side when wearing Ethels mask.

Is this the door from the area with masked guys to another area with poison clouds? Just how do you end up there with hag already dead? Unless you killed her right there in the house before she managed to vanish?

No, there is one more door in that area, which leads to the Underdark. You may not even notice it.

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Originally Posted by jmos
You can certainly find a YouTube video showing you exactly where this is if my description sucks.

No - easy peasy. I found it quite quickly.
Had a hunch already.
Because when in battle and when the AI's turn comes, the battlecam was zooming EXACTLY to this place anyways for no reason.

The whatever coding responsible somehow thinks this area needs to be focussed during one of the AI turns.
I just thought this is just a typical Early Access bug.
Yeah this wall is not on the path when someone walks by normally.
Found it pretty easily when I hugged the wall though as I proceeded.

Well that was exciting.
Thank you very much! smile
The Zentharim are a cocky Mafia that's for sure but I must admit they have balls.
Finding this elevator reminded me how daring they are to build a hidden storage place in the Underdark of all places.

Found their place in the Underdark normally of course but somehow it felt like the Zentharim we encounter in the first Act may not be that related to this place after all.
As it seemed to be in a deadend - I kinda figured it might be a place long forgotten for about 10 to 50 years or so.


Originally Posted by Choosen of KEK
Is this the door from the area with masked guys to another area with poison clouds?
Just how do you end up there with hag already dead? Unless you killed her right there in the house before she managed to vanish?


The MLG method

In this game, positioning is everything.
If you plan to attack this green D&D Babayaga in her hut, you can place your group on higher levels in her house beforehand.
Attack her before or after the dialogue.
She is not becoming hostile immediately after you reject her offer.
Ethel will teleport this pregnant Human Woman away - which is good to avoid her becoming collateral.

Wait until Ethel stands in a favourable position to just nuke her with your strongest ranged attacks.
But as usual, "Smokepowder C4 barrels" are an all time favourite for hitting hard.
I prefer to lit an enemy on fire first and throw it right on them with another character.

Very sweet hitchance for the big explosion damage ( feels like 100% ) and Ethel teleports only after 3 rounds of combat in her hut.
If you are experienced with positioning and how to deal damage in this game, she might not even survive round 1.


Alternate - if Ethel gets away

She fights much more prepared against us around the cage area, with annoying illusions and super overpowered range for all of her attacks.
I suggest you shoot a single Magic Missle on every "Shadowclone" she summons of herself to stop it from making the battle unnecessarily hard.
Her real body is invisible as long as her clones exist.

Try to pop at least two of those damn clones with one spell usage.
Give other partymembers Scrolls of Magic Missles if you have any so they can help.
During Ethels round her stupid subtitled laughter reveals where her real body stands possibly.
An AoE attack can help you to force her out of invisibility and maybe finish her off without the need to kill all of her clones.
But the clones are a hassle anyways and if her real body has still much HP, defeat her clones as fast as possible.

Once you have killed the monstrous Fae Granny, you can equip the Mask anyways.
Backtrack the way up and keep to the left while you do so.
At one point there will be a small rift you must jump over.

An illusionary door awaits right afterwards. Equip mask -> move the camera sideways on the other side and click on the ground behind the door. You pass most easily.

€dit:
Do not venture into the Underdark with Ethels disgusting Debuff. Sleep at camp first to reset it.
There is a Landshark creature down there with an already powerful acid attack.
It becomes a oneshot most easily if you still have Ethels debuff.

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Another trick to beating Ethel during the battle near the cage is to hit her with any debuff type spell (bane, hex, hunters mark...). After she creates her 'clones.' only the real Auntie Ethel will be marked with the condition you hit her with. Then, as JustAnotherBaldu said, hit the clones with any attack (magic missiles are perfect) and they disappear, hit the real one with the hard attacks to kill her.

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