i can take in what you are saying though i actually come from and enjoy AD&D 2nd Edition. im used to height playing in, as well as surface ( though cantrips didnt exist, and im not certain yet that i fully grasp how the community uses the term surface x where x is many different things. so that aside... bg1/2 being 2e games there were countless rules left out of the core. the culture change i spoke to was more of a societal change, how we use the internet, our expectations of content, etc. back in bg1/2 you were hardcore if you wrote your own html for your homepage especially if your dog had a link ( exageration obv ) we downloaded guides in giant text files and sifted through them. etc its a very different internet, and it has an effect on gaming culture.