Yes, I would argue these have nothing to do with gender or sex. Only with gendered expectations.

You very arbitrarily divide the spectrum of human emotion and decide what is okay for women and men to assume. Sorry, but this is exactly what toxic masculinity is about.

I don't want to judge and don't know your background or age group, but for me, this sounds very old-school and harmful for all parties included.

Originally Posted by Sordak
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So all the "male "characteristics you see on him are negative, maybe thats the issue. Maybe thats also why you use the word "Toxic masculinity".
Theres the first red flag, then you start throwing around the word sexist and im thinking maybe youre not the right person to debate these topics, you obviously have some issues to work on yourself.

No need to get into personal insults, my dude. I didn't say I hate Wyll or he is unappealing to me, I said he is a very good case study of the crisis of masculinity.

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