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Take one part BG 3. one part Witcher 3, one part Daggerfall - mix well - and we should satisfy the OP.

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Yep. In for a penny, in for a pound. (And by pound I mean the currency.) Or, as Yoda says, "do, or do not". The current sex scene is indeed very suspiciously showing nothing, when sexes would and should have been seen. I'm certainly not advocating for close-ups of a penis inside a vagina, but a glimpse of hair or sexual organs would be more natural.

Not trying to argue with you but I am curious. Why stop before full blown porn? Like you said, do or do not.
Ha ha. Well, it depends what the goal is. In my mind the goal was a romantic sex scene where two people are having a good time, having sex, and, well, sex is visible on the camera. Not the focal point, but visible. At the moment the angles we have suggest a hairless (if not sexless) model. Also, I figured that, for bull blown porn, I can readily find videos online, I don't need to fight a camp of tieflings for 15 minutes or know who is doing it with who.

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Originally Posted by Starshine
On Beards though, when I next GM I'm going to declare that dwarf babies get their nutrition from eating their parents beards, so dwarves having big beards is a way of showing off how well they could provide for future dwarflings in a birds building nests to win mates manner. I know it's not what anyone said but it's what I took from Kadajkos comment.

No, you actually got my point exactly right, and if you were to declare that, it would make perfect sense.

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Happenstance. All mammals have nipples; only humans have significant breasts. Most likely they replaced the butt as a visual stimulus and unless they are actively engorged with milk there is no reason for them to look any different than male breasts other than that pure aesthetic that was sexually selected as we got upright. The fatty layers do not help nurse children, only the nipple that happens to be upon them. The thing we find so sexual is but just a secondary sexual characteristic.

But I can argue that developed Lobules and Ducts also play a role in how large a breast is, not just fat tissue, also said organs sit in the fat tissue. Males don't have these, or at least they are as developed as clitoris is to penis. I know there are a lot of people that think breasts shouldn't be sexual, but honestly, to me it would make more sense to ask males to cover their chest and nipples too in public places ( and by extension censor in videogames ) rather than to try to desexualize breasts.

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I am fine with us not being able to remove or edit panties of our heroes. That kind of.. hmmmm.... detail, will no doubt be tackled by modders.

That reminds me of Early Access of PoE2 where one of the sidekicks after one of the patches went full nude, when without armor. Turns out devs developed full bodies, and then put clothes on top to make everything fit better. They just patched in a wrong model or something like that.

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I agree. This will be one of the first mods developed after full release. It always is ...

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I want the option to select a magnum dong for my halfling, and there better be jiggle physics for seeing it bounce around inside his pants while he moves around.


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I am all for a more variegated wardrobe, no matter how hard I try I can not see the wardrobe arguments as a victorian age moralism revised and dressed up with different colors (those of equality respect and so on ) but still moralism.

(And I'd like to highlight the fact that I specified "more variegated" so that a player, not matter of their gender, can choose how to dress it's characters, no matter their gender, also to see more diversity just like in real life you see a full spectrum of dressses from the more covering to the more revealing, I mean Conan the barbarian goes around in a tong and Red Sonia in a bikini, and it fuctions because it's the both of them that are almost naked).

About the OP, I'm not interested in the sex scenes becoming virtual eroticism or soft porn. There are a lot of porn/erotic games that fill that target of customers. Furthermore I don't get the nudity problem in this kind of games, to be more specific: I don't ever understood or understand the taboo about the naked human body, I was annoyed by the "male view" that brought to more and more female nudity but took Netflix to brought open full male nudity, but I don't like the gratuity of nudity, so unless there's a reason to have a full nude I don't feel like there is the need to have one.

In this game that, unlikely how Daggerfall was, doesn't have a vast variegate set of wardrobe that included underwear, tongs and loincloths, that your character could wear under the armor, I don't think there is a need in the character equipment tab to have full naked models.

I remember how weird it was in daggerfall to see the characters be barbie and ken stile with no anatomic realism, but you could decide to have your character (no matter the gender) to go commando under the clothes dressed under the armor or even to put the armor directly on their naked body.

On the secondary sexual characters debate lets make a little clarity: secondary sexual traits is a definition that is not related to the sexual attraction but to the fact that those are anatomic secondary characters that allow to differentiate between the two sexes (the male peacock has its colors and fabulous feathers, the female has a less vivid color, in some species the only secondary sexual trait is the dimension), in the Homo sapiens species secondary sexual traits are the muscular mass and dimensions (males have more muscles and usually are bigger than females), the different tone of voice, the absence of breast in males, the different distribution of body hair (males tend to have more body hair and to loss head hair with the passing of years, females tend to have less body hair and to mantain their head hair among all their life).

Obviously they are involved in the complex games that are needed for coupling, mating, and reproduction but that's not the reason they were defined secondary (and the reason male nipples don't enter in the category: both males and females of H. sapiens have nipples thus this is a character that is not useful to distinguish between the two sexes, while beard is considered one.

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Originally Posted by zyr1987
Originally Posted by VeronicaTash
Originally Posted by Anfindel
To the hells with sexy thong armor !!

I want an off switch for clothing, just like for helms, and anatomically correct character models !!

My anatomically correct Ken and Barbie will be adventuring on Bachelor/Bachelorette Island !!

Evildoers, beware my blade - oops...left it in my other BVD's !!

There is nothing wrong with spellcasting from genetalia nor beating someone to death with it. Just not a DnD thing.
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Chromatic Ray was always OP in every edition


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