Originally Posted by FireSnake
The sneak attack currently simply has to be selcted from your ablities on the right rather than being included into your normal attacks on the left of the tool bar, not to say that this is optimally solved but it actually makes sneak attack better as it allows you to ignore it's triggering conditions. Besides you get a free Two weapon fighting fighting style as Rogue which just means you get stuff from other classes as well (notice the absurd off hand dmg, yeah that's cuz your modifier gets into the dmg calculation which technically it wouldn't, without two weapon fighting) Not to mention Thief being able to use 2 bonus actions to stab people. To me Rogue felt very powerful. Thief atleast, Arcane trickster is weak in 5e too soooooo that's in line(also it's an issue with the limtied spells at the moment, no Shield in particular hurts Eldritch Knight and Arcane Trickster)


Arcane Trickster is one of the strongest 5e rouges (though missing any of its good features and spells in BG3) below list of the items that make them one of the best rouges in tabletop 5e.
1) Mage Hand with its improvements makes Arcane Trickster one of the best at disarming traps and other aspects of exploration with nearly no risk.
2) they get find familiar. This give them unrivaled ability for exploration and very easy access to advantage for both skill checks and attacks ( easy sneak attack access for melee in particular.
3) They get the shield spell in 5e giving them more defensive power than any other rouge
4) they get Booming Blade and Green Flame Blade on a class that wants to do single attacks each round. These spells make a big difference in overall damage output. It make Tricksters have one of the highest turn to turn damage of any rouge.
5) Vast utility with spells like disguise self, alter self, invisibility and more.

With regards to BG3 many of these benefits don't exist and many may not make it in the base game. The altered thief is definitely the stronger of the two currently in BG3 but isn't true in tabletop. And if they start to improve the arcane trickster with more of them above abilities, it can be the strongest rouge in BG3.

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Rouges do good damage in 5e. When sneak attack is not bugged, they have one of the most consistent damage curves. Its not the best damage of 5e but its good and very consistent.
Sneak attack is simply very buggy in BG3 atm. It very painful that sneak attack isn't default applied to your attacks. Its not intuitive to select sneak attack as its own ability. 95%+ of the time, you want sneak attack to proc on your first attack. The default option should lend itself to the normal play and to habit. I am fine with a toggle or having a separate ability that doesn't do sneak attack (basically the opposite of the current method.)