Originally Posted by Nyloth
No. Never. Stop. In every game, we take the "first step", I don't like to take the first step and constantly "roll up" to the characters. I just want the characters to show interest in the MC, and not vice versa, as is always the case in games. I'm tired of it.

So my girlfriend has sexual trauma and was really uncomfortable with how these scenes came up. Yeah, you can skip cutscenes, but it's too late for the ick, generally. She's been a fan of these games since BG1 as a kid, and is here for the rpg. The romance in the older games didn't feel like aggressive flirtation was shove down her throat without warning, and if it was it didn't feel as real because it was closer to reading a book. Lae'zel's come on in particular, and response to rejection turned out to be a pretty serious trigger and it felt out of nowhere since she hadn't flirted with the character at all.

Originally Posted by Nyloth
Characters are not your comfort zone, stop smoothing out all the " corners " just because you have "triggers". If everyone writes about their triggers, then there will be nothing left of the characters.

You realize that nothing I'm advocating here is actually changing the characters. Like you said, based on approval characters come on to you or not. I'm only advocating we change how that triggers so that people who will feel uncomfortable with it don't have to experience it.

Originally Posted by Nyloth
Honestly, I adore Astarion and Gale!

I like them quite a bit too, and I think the toxic ways they pursue you feel very realistic. Not everyone is perfect and this is genuinely fine. I like them quite a lot as characters and while I personally find their behavior gross at times this is not what I'm actually asking to be changed. Again, personally I wanted to be able to rebuff them a little more forcefully for RP reasons, but that was not my big complaint.

Originally Posted by KillerRabbit
You hang out with someone, you decide you are interested, you get signs they are interested and you make a pass. Right? Like real life?

See how this feels off from real life is that it feels like everyone has who they're going to sleep with immediately on they're mind. If Shadowheart doesn't want to sleep with you, she comments on the fact that she doesn't on the night she would in the middle of an otherwise normal dialog. It feels like everyone has this horndog element kinda shoved in when for the most part they have more important things to worry about. This isn't bait, just coming from the perspective of someone who is more interested in party dynamics and characters outside of a potential romantic context. In the old BG games it never felt like romance was on the table at all times with every single character, which is how it feels at this stage.

It's not like this is meant to be some takedown of the game either, I realize this is early access and I'm sure it'll feel less awkward with time, just making a recommendation for where it could develop based on the issues there are now... you know, like what early access is supposed to be for.

Again, not here to put y'all in horny jail, there should just be a horny opt out for fans less interested in that element of the game.

Last edited by 7TeenWriters; 07/01/21 07:27 AM.