Hmmm ok. So basically literal self insert. So what bothers people is that the self insert character does not lose? I mean you can't create something without putting a piece of yourself in it, but a Mary sue is an extreme case? Has Elminister ever lost? Just curious. Technically all upper ranked gods past shar and Overgods like Ao are Mary sue's. Lmao. Crazy.

I don't know. Seems like a very dark outlook. If someone does not lose something they are hated. Very philosophical actually. Interesting.

I've never payed attention to the term so it was nice learning the clarification. Thanks.

Edit: I guess I'm someone who rather focus on putting a characters strengths to the test instead of focusing on exploiting weaknesses storywise. If that makes sense. The struggles vs actual defeats.

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