Hmmm ok. So basically literal self insert. So what bothers people is that the self insert character does not lose? I mean you can't create something without putting a piece of yourself in it, but a Mary sue is an extreme case? Has Elminister ever lost? Just curious. Technically all upper ranked gods past shar and Overgods like Ao are Mary sue's. Lmao. Crazy.
I don't know. Seems like a very dark outlook. If someone does not lose something they are hated. Very philosophical actually. Interesting.
I've never payed attention to the term so it was nice learning the clarification. Thanks.
Well the hero of the story should win. It’s more nuisanced than that. The hero has to earn the victory. If all his powers and gifts are inherent and free, the victory is shallow. But if they were earned through hard work, struggle or dedication then the audience can appreciate the win.
It’s the same reason people like to cheer the underdog. We want to see hard work pay off even if the odds are against you.
