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Yeah, me too. I even gave Varric a shirt. Putting unsexy (to me) characters in sexy outfits and shoving them in my face isn't very appealing.

(Alistair and Zevran, though, they get the good stuff. And if BG3 adds some sexy light armor for men, it's going right to Astarion.)

@Aishaddai, it looks like pushed your bottons a bit, by the tone of your message, or perhaps not - its hard to express emotion/tones in a text. But the following post here, I am happy and respectful of you & all. I enjoy reading you, you making me paddle a little bit . (look up my new signature )
The following text is my perspective and doesn't necessary reflect ALL women's views.

ok ..

I started playing BG3 in October and I started with a Ranger, I took Lae's armor right away, on the ship, because I liked the look and didn't like her. It was a "fluke", I didn't know it would turn out to be the best armor in EA with the stats and right away I noticed the legs open and the buttcheek. At this point, no big deal. It looks great ! I love it.

It's only recently, in this forum, where we were comparing race faces that I decided to make a "dude" for my 5th run. I grabbed Lae's armor for my "male Ranger" as usual and then oh - same armor - same class - same level, different style - sign, why ?. It doesn't even look great on a male, now "he" looks like a robot - a can of coke and all puffy. Clearly this seems, once again in this whole gaming ecosystem, a double standard male/female.

I know it's hard to comprehend for men, and I acknowledge that some women in this forum also think differently. Whoever not expose to sexism - well, it doesn't exist. I am in computer science and there is 3 women for 20 men and we get some sexism comments here and there all the time - why ? You get a job, same experience, same skills, same same same, but salary is different - why ? It's always a bit harder to get to the next thing all the time, as a woman compare to man - why ?. Over time, you just can't help it, your brain becomes Alerte to details like the gith's armor not the same for both gender, it becomes the "what you see". I was just trying to rationalize with the spartan/roman armor to me make it more acceptable - but I was wrong, I was avoiding talking about my own point. With my point, I really felt like this wikipedia link, what I'm highlighting in red:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexism
Sexism is prejudice or discrimination based on a person's sex or gender ... It has been linked to stereotypes and gender roles.

Before you ask, no - I didn't mess up with wikipedia definition

I acknowledge that this is a game and perhaps we shouldn't make a big fuss about it (as shadowheart would say), but we opened the topic in this forum where we were looking for feedback to the admins of the game. I jumped on the opportunity, thanks to @Kadajko. @Kadajko is my real hero for opening up this can of worms allowing the few of us to talk about this. Because It is "very hard" as a woman to even talk about these things, you're being judge. Just ask around, in your close circle and be mindful that some of us will say no, because of ego and frustration - but is sexism common or uncommon ? Tell me. Even if we all agree in this forum and have the Dev/Admin jumping-in - I don't expect this thread to become popular with other gaming platform and then we will go change the world. I just hope if we fix one detail at the time we will kill this topic and that's what I meant by asking to make them both the same.

I hope this post is not too heavy and doesn't attract too much thunder and if so, I will delete it and move on.

For me, it depends on the character I play. So sexy cloths are ok, unsexy too. All I want is to have a choice.
So if a female armor look like this:
Then male armor should look like this or similiar:
This:
And that:

A few sets of diffrent armors for both.

I've already answered your question. The metaphor means that you can put a bandaid on it, but it still won't stop the bleeding.
An example would be Bioware and it's Andromeda graphical glitches. The bandaid of "let's stop making pretty women" censored staff from speaking up about horrendous animation glitches. Super reductive thinking is the wrong approach and just isn't capable of solving a deeper issue.


I can easily perceive Lae's armor as only incidentally sexy - it's half plate intended only to armor the upper part of the body. Again, I can't change the fact that humanity as a whole find female legs (and ass - her ass is also out lol) more attractive than male legs - so a woman in the aforementioned "Spartan" armor will have sex appeal to most people. But it's harder to perceive this design choice as only incidental (on what could be practical armor of a dexterous fighter) and more as an intentional "lets see how we can get away with having her fight with her ass out", when the males get leather wraps on the legs and have no in-lore reason to require more protection than the females. They are just as lanky as the females, lending to the same dexterous fighting style. I personally see it as a nuanced case where sexualizing the male upper torso could work, but simply removing the leather wraps allows one to remove the possible exploitative nature of it from mind. Again, my male Gith looks like a hobo in half plate. This armor could be meant to glorify an agile warrior (not necessarily sexualize) first and foremost.


I very much agree! And I think these are good examples. My fav class is Barbarian so I love the first two pics especially.

Fully closed clothes, but still very hot... Design, that's what it's about. It's about design... q-q

When it comes to recent fantasy art.
I think Adrian Smith understands perfectly how to do it.

men are hulking barbarians, and women lithe athletes, i love it.

I prefer this one:
or this:

This is also very hot! It's stylish! That's what they have to give us, I don't want to wear Gale's robe or somth like that T_T

He is good, but not my favorite artist. His art is too sharp/"cold".

problem is everything can be saw as "inviting" from the point of view of a predator (as anyone who has even the slightest knowledge of what are the clothes in molested or abused women know)

also to just translate clothing that function on a female body (that has curves) on a male body (that doesn't have the same lines) doesn't function, because that kind of clothing (independently from the fact that it had or not had been designed to be sexy or sezualizing) is designed for a body that has curves.


Changing argument: the two barbarians armors are awesome, and that balded barbaria oh my he's frigging sexy!

And the two rogue females are amazing too. Specialy the last one is really elegant and sexy too.

Those are clothes, not armor.

Again:

This is what you might call armor for rogue or class like this. Armor is just a generic word in this case, not an alloy of metal...

Even for a rogue that is not armor. Armor must offer some sort of protection which those outfits do not.

Those both goes as +0 AC +DEX Mod armours

I want sexy edgelord armor. I want rule of cool.

Any arguments about practicality are completely foolish in light of ANY armor preventing you from being rent in half by a dragon.

I am however down for a wide variety of armor appearances and an appearance tab. If you want to dress like a nun, Id like you to be able to. If I want to dress like a sexy nun, I want to be able to.

They offer protection from papercuts and a slight breeze at the very least. Not much, but certainly not nothing.

Yeah true buttttt I'm sure looking like a cute pirate in leather armour corset is worth it XD

But seriously though I feel like playing a mage or any ranged class it would be better to be equipped lightly so you can manoeuvre more no?

I mean if this is AC 11:

No, my dear friend, this is called LIGHT ARMOR and even in the game it gives protection, just less. You can see for yourself.