Originally Posted by VeronicaTash
Originally Posted by Arne
Elves, Protoss, angels are depicted as exceptionally good and honorable. Zerg, Orcs and Chuthulu Illithids are depicted as evil, vicious and actually supremacist.

The statement that all non-humans would be depicted as 'vile monsters' is simply not true.

The OP is asking for non-humans, but who are social animals with a recent common ancestor with humans, to act completely different from humans and lack a basic morality. That is what this is in reference to - not angels or ghaik.

Angels, Elves, Protoss are acting completely different from humans, especially because of their eternal life, and have a different "morality" than humans. You simply try to focus on negative examples like Orcs or Drow, because you do not want to acknowledge that there are also Angels, Protoss, Elves in Fantasy RPGs, which are depicted acting in a different, but actually *better* way in a moral sense.

You do not want to have *any* differences in Fantasy RPGs. And because people will simply not play such games you don't focus on races depicted in a good light, but only on those depicted in a bad light because that's the only way you can argue that such differences might be "bad" and shouldn't exist.

Originally Posted by VeronicaTash
Elves go back much further back than Tolkien and were not perfect little humans - they go back into Norse mythology and centuries afterward, and centuries before Tolkien, were known as pranksters.

Which doesn't change the fact that Tolkien used them in exactly that manner. And which is one reason his books are so popular. Even the Drow, despite being supremacist and racist, are still being depicted as more powerful than the average human - just as evil, intolerant and racist.

You even admit it yourself: You wouldn't have any problem with the Drow, if they were just high Elves with a white skin color. Your only problem is that they have not only white hair - that's fine - but also a black skin color. And according to your highly dicriminatory world view something like the Drow may not exist.


Originally Posted by VeronicaTash
I'm sorry. How do you know all the details of what I do day in and day out? One is hardly limited to either commenting on racism or attending mass demonstrations against racism - they aren't mutually exclusive events.

So, how often in your entire life have you complained about fantasy RPGs like Baldurs Gate 3, Harry Potter books, the Orcs in Lord of the Rings? And how often were you out in the streets to protest against Yusra Khogali, Boko Haram, Mahathir Mohammed or IS?

In truth, you don't care about prejudice or intolerance at all. You only care, if you can blame Western Countries. In any other case, you accidentally 'didn't notice'.

Last edited by Arne; 10/01/21 01:32 PM.