Originally Posted by Dexai
Originally Posted by RatPackGamer
Well fortunately I said easier, not easy, and I didn't say humans aren't interesting. You're the one saying people that prefer to play other races are immature. I'm just trying to highlight why I and others like playing fantasy races.

Well fortunately I said easy, so are you trying to make the point that 95% of the workload is less than 100%? You don't have to. It is self evident.


Originally Posted by RatPackGamer
(Edit: Having given your post some more thought, I'm not sure the two ideologies "race of a character is irrelevant to a character's interestingtude (which I agree with" and 'Humans are more interesting)' are *entirely compatible.

They are entirely compatible -- strip away a character's race, and what are you left with? A human.


Originally Posted by RatPackGamer
If we agree that various races represent aspects of humanity, that's great, but that doesn't mean a fantasy race represents only a fraction of humanity as a whole and is therefore less interesting. Especially since just because a person may play a Human, it doesn't mean they are representative of all of humanity. One human does not necessarily represent all aspects of humanity at all times. A goblin can feel love, loss, wealth, poverty, family, etc. Depends on the writing.

Well fortunately I said humanity, not one human. You and me, arguing on the internet? Completely uninteresting. The entirety of humanity? Near infinitely interesting. A representative of a fraction of humanity? Much less interesting. I guess I'm making the point that 95% is less than 100%. That should be self-evident.


Originally Posted by RatPackGamer
Subjectively finding humans more interesting is fine, more power to you, but that doesn't mean people who prefer playing other races are wrong [snip] to want to play those options.)

And that there is a strawman argument. I never said anything of the sort.


trololol well fortunately I said easiER and you were responding to my comment on the matter. Are you trying to make the point that 100% is more than 95%? You don't have to. It is self evident. No turning this into chicken and the egg. wink

Strip away a characters race and what are you left with? A being without a race that is the summation of their life experiences and their world view.

@Ayvah is on point with his response. And it really points to the amazing power that Empathy and Imagination have and our ability to roleplay things so different from our own experience.

Entirety of humanity IS nearly infinitely interesting. Congratulations. That doesn't take away from other races being interesting in the slightest. In storytelling you cannot explore every facet of humanity at all times. You pick themes, you take a viewpoint, you write characters, you create barriers, etc. Again, If I write a story about a character (this time of no specified race because it really doesn't matter at the end of the day) who wants vengeance for his brother, this is not representative of an aspect of humanity that represents motherhood or coming of age.



Strawman argument? Ha! Really nice of you to 'snip' my quote, dude. Dishonest.
Originally Posted by Dexai
"Exotic" races usually appeal to shallow people and people with an overblown need for attention. Which is also why they tens to be popular with teenagers and other immature people.


Originally Posted by RatPackGamer
Subjectively finding humans more interesting is fine, more power to you, but that doesn't mean people who prefer playing other races are wrong, immature, or just want attention, to want to play those options.)

Last edited by RatPackGamer; 29/01/21 08:12 PM.