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OP, you assume that people who are unhappy/disappointed with BG3 feel that way only because of BG3 not strictly adhering to D&D 5e rules. This is simply not true. I don't assume that. What I said is that some players feel betrayed (or cheated, or misled, whatever word you prefer). That doesn't mean all players. To be more specific about how I came to writing this post, there exists at least one other thread in which at least one player expressed that feeling (and some more have expressed this here). I said there something along the line that I understood, because I too remembered hearing Larian saying this would be relatively faithful to 5E. But then in another thread (or not, I'm not sure), Topgoon questioned the assumption that Larian had promised some faithfulness to the rules. So I thought : hm, what did Larian actually say on this topic ? What I think on the original question, according to what I could dig up and how I feel about it, is that it is understandable to see how Larian's communication misled some people to expect a real 5E feel. I also find that : - Larian's communication really wasn't clear, going in two directions (faithfulness and not faithfulness), depending on whether they were talking about the rules or talking about the pressure of making BG3. - While I can put together the pieces and get an idea of what their vision is, what they're going for, they haven't properly communicated it. I think they should. As for your statement that it is not true that all players who are disappointed feel that way because of BG3 not strictly adhering to D&D 5e rules, I fully agree. Firstly, logically, it is simply true. You only need one example to prove it, and plenty can be found. Secondly, it applies to me : I am disappointed with how BG3 (especially the combat) currently feels and it is not particularly because it is not strictly following 5E (as far as combat is concerned, it's just because it isn't really good once you're passed the first 15h).
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