Originally Posted by spectralhunter
Originally Posted by Scribe
Rolling for Stats ALONE, renders any discussing meaningless.

Standard Array + ASI from Race (or an alternative method as I've gone with) is by far my favorite method.

I don't like point buy or standard array because both end up making cookie cutter characters. In a private table among trusted friends, I see almost no reason to use these two methods. Everyone should have an idea on what type of game they want to play together. I mean, as a DM, I wouldn't mind them literally picking their stats at that point.

In a public table with random people? I can see the value since you want to balance things out and you don't know what to expect.

By not creating some disadvantages on races, along with point-buy, standard array, ASI, the system continues further down the line of cookie cutter/min max builds.

I can agree with that, but that is exactly why I put importance on ASI.

I actually love the standard array, but that puts a ton of pressure on the racial ASI to make up a distinction at level 1 between races.

Rolling? Then it just doesnt matter as much to me.