@Dexai, I'm getting lost in that discussion. I can see how I said something about a certain character concept being roleplaying. Then I can see you said I should use the word power-gaming instead of roleplaying. In my understanding, that means that there is something, which to me is both roleplay and power-gaming but to you is power-gaming only. So I said that perhaps you simply have different definitions, which imply that not all roleplaying is compatible with all power-gaming. And I said "that's fine" because I didn't want to argue definitions. I don't see where you see a strawman there. But nevermind, let me ask a different question.

@RagnarokCzD, spectralhunter : thanks for your answers.


Ok, now, it seems that most people here agree that one can be roleplaying and power-gaming simultaneously. But not everyone agrees on what is encompassed by roleplaying and what is encompassed by power-gaming. So let me consider 4 characters. They are all level 1. And Orcs have +2 Strength, +1 Constitution and -2 Intelligence, as per VGtM.

  • Awnka is an Orc Barbarian who has 16 Strength. (She is strong, proud, ambitious and will crush the skull of anyone who would think of telling her "no, you can't".)
  • Bolg is an Orc Fighter who has 14 Strength. (He was always left out of the prestigious missions for the tribe, so he left to purse what he wants and to prove his worth to the world.)
  • Ceega is an Orc Wizard who has 14 Intelligence. (She was was trained by an Arcane Brother who kicker her for being not useful good enough. She now wanders and hope to continue with magic.)
  • Dench is an Orc Wizard who has 16 Intelligence. (He was raised in Silverymoon during the peace, but felt it would be much safer to leave when war with the Orcs broke out.)

I think that some, if not most, people would agree that playing Awnka or Dench qualifies as power-gaming.

But which ones qualify as role-playing ?

To me, all four characters are acceptable. But a player who wants to roleplay and power-game at the same time will probably choose Awnka or Dench.