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Cleric of Innuendo
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Problem is, forums still have a few Die hards(less and less most left) that defend anything and i mean any feature even if they don't care about it at all. Just because they like Larian and in their opinion they make prefect games and suggestions will ruin the next one somehow and those people are indeed...idiots. Do not insult other posters. It's not generally a difficult rule to follow.
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Problem is, forums still have a few Die hards(less and less most left) that defend anything and i mean any feature even if they don't care about it at all. Just because they like Larian and in their opinion they make prefect games and suggestions will ruin the next one somehow and those people are indeed...idiots. Do not insult other posters. It's not generally a difficult rule to follow. Calling someone an idiot is not insult it just explanation of the state they present themselves in the moment in question. You chose to be an idiot it's related to ego. Idiot comes from Greek idios - “own, private, layman, “ idiot is somebody who’s though flow is blocked by his ego/superiority, and can change at anytime if they so wish. Idiots can recover from this state. Here i'll do it right now. I was an idiot for posting that and i'm sorry... See i recovered from the state done! And if they did it we would have a better community. You were confusing it with stupid common mistake.
Last edited by Lastman; 25/02/21 01:11 PM.
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I don't see how anyone sane still has any kind of hope for BG3 to be a reasonably faithful rendition of the rules, not after that last stream. Larian basically had Jeremy Crawford there for the sole reason of telling you rule-lovin' nerds to f**k off, LOL!  Don't get me wrong, I feel for you, guys & gals, I also have the 2nd, 3rd and 5th edition PHBs in my library, but it is rather obvious that it IS going to be this Larian's jumpy, cartoony, DOS-like combat system with dipping, barrels, eating stuff during combat (there is still some little hope that this might go away, but...) and (basically) misty-stepping badgers. The best we can hope for is that the future updates (though patch 4 is not going to fix anything, if I understand correctly) are going to at least fix the combat a bit so it does not suck as much and becomes at least a bit more tactical and encounter-specific (rather than the optimal strategy being abusing the same OP aspects almost every time). The dumbest scenario I'm afraid of right now is Larian keeping the current system BUT refusing to change/rebalance most spells/abilities to reflect the fact that this is in fact not 5e - that would be really dumb, rendering a huge chunk of spells/abilities useless and another chunk OP. If Larian clearly cannot let go of the DOS combat system fundamentals, they should just change everything to make it at least more-or-less as enjoyable as those games.
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Cleric of Innuendo
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Cleric of Innuendo
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Do not insult other posters. It's not generally a difficult rule to follow. Calling someone an idiot is not insult it just explanation of the state they present themselves in the moment in question. You chose to be an idiot it's related to ego. Idiot comes from Greek idios - “own, private, layman, “ idiot is somebody who’s though flow is blocked by his ego/superiority, and can change at anytime if they so wish. Idiots can recover from this state. Here i'll do it right now. I was an idiot for posting that and i'm sorry... See i recovered from the state done! And if they did it we would have a better community. You were confusing it with stupid common mistake. If you thought that trying to be clever was a good idea then you are very much mistaken. Have a week off to think about why.
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I don't see how anyone sane still has any kind of hope for BG3 to be a reasonably faithful rendition of the rules, not after that last stream. Larian basically had Jeremy Crawford there for the sole reason of telling you rule-lovin' nerds to f**k off, LOL! Don't get me wrong, I feel for you, guys & gals, I also have the 2nd, 3rd and 5th edition PHBs in my library, but it is rather obvious that it IS going to be this Larian's jumpy, cartoony, DOS-like combat system with dipping, barrels, eating stuff during combat (there is still some little hope that this might go away, but...) and (basically) misty-stepping badgers. The best we can hope for is that the future updates (though patch 4 is not going to fix anything, if I understand correctly) are going to at least fix the combat a bit so it does not suck as much and becomes at least a bit more tactical and encounter-specific (rather than the optimal strategy being abusing the same OP aspects almost every time). The dumbest scenario I'm afraid of right now is Larian keeping the current system BUT refusing to change/rebalance most spells/abilities to reflect the fact that this is in fact not 5e - that would be really dumb, rendering a huge chunk of spells/abilities useless and another chunk OP. If Larian clearly cannot let go of the DOS combat system fundamentals, they should just change everything to make it at least more-or-less as enjoyable as those games. I've come to this line of thought as well. I'd certainly prefer that they START with a 5E adaptation and then modify from there... but given that they do not seem to be doing that, it would probably be better to just abandon 5E altogether and just do Larian rather than create an unholy amalgam of the two.
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I don't see how anyone sane still has any kind of hope for BG3 to be a reasonably faithful rendition of the rules, not after that last stream. Larian basically had Jeremy Crawford there for the sole reason of telling you rule-lovin' nerds to f**k off, LOL! Don't get me wrong, I feel for you, guys & gals, I also have the 2nd, 3rd and 5th edition PHBs in my library, but it is rather obvious that it IS going to be this Larian's jumpy, cartoony, DOS-like combat system with dipping, barrels, eating stuff during combat (there is still some little hope that this might go away, but...) and (basically) misty-stepping badgers. The best we can hope for is that the future updates (though patch 4 is not going to fix anything, if I understand correctly) are going to at least fix the combat a bit so it does not suck as much and becomes at least a bit more tactical and encounter-specific (rather than the optimal strategy being abusing the same OP aspects almost every time). The dumbest scenario I'm afraid of right now is Larian keeping the current system BUT refusing to change/rebalance most spells/abilities to reflect the fact that this is in fact not 5e - that would be really dumb, rendering a huge chunk of spells/abilities useless and another chunk OP. If Larian clearly cannot let go of the DOS combat system fundamentals, they should just change everything to make it at least more-or-less as enjoyable as those games. I've come to this line of thought as well. I'd certainly prefer that they START with a 5E adaptation and then modify from there... but given that they do not seem to be doing that, it would probably be better to just abandon 5E altogether and just do Larian rather than create an unholy amalgam of the two. Why I don't expect much to change but I'll keep stressing that I want them to be closers to the 5e rules. If we just stop talking about the 5e rules, I know nothing will be done. If we keep discussing them, there is still hope Larian will hear and make more changes.
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Why I don't expect much to change but I'll keep stressing that I want them to be closers to the 5e rules. If we just stop talking about the 5e rules, I know nothing will be done. If we keep discussing them, there is still hope Larian will hear and make more changes. Panel From Hell 2 made it pretty clear that this is not happening. I will take anything that doesn't suck.
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