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Good comments & observation !

Originally Posted by Seraphael
Multiclass dip level 1 Barbarian, or level 1 Monk for Unarmored Defense, and you add CON or WIS modifiers to unarmored AC in any shape. A lowish level Dire Wolf/Monk would have AC 18-19 (assuming 18-20 WIS). An Earth Elemental wildshape (level 10-11), would have 17 AC base + 4 from Barbarian dip or +5 for Monk dip (20 WIS) for AC 21-22 total. Clearly we are not talking about crushingly low AC, but rather strong AC for a Druid who cares enough to strengthen his wild shapes.

The moment you mentioned "multiclass", we're dragging the conversation to a totally different corner. In this post, I was pointing out the druid class as presented by the panel compare to the actual class we have in EA.

Originally Posted by Seraphael
Barkskin (level 2 spell that can be up infinitely assuming it has the Hex/Hunter's Mark treatment) + shield = AC 18...even assuming NEGATIVE DEX modifier.

Nice catch. So a decent AC. I am not expert in 5th edition, but according to this link here: https://roll20.net/compendium/dnd5e/Barkskin#content - it says concentration or 1 hour ?! so it can stack with Tyr's protection ?! That's too much, take it out ..


Originally Posted by Dark_Ansem
6. Speaking of AC, being a druid doesn't mean you can totally dump Dex or Con. You need Con to maintain concentration on spells when not in beast form and you need Dex to make sure your caster form's AC isn't abysmal, as you'll likely get knocked out of form at least occasionally. Likely while surrounded by enemies. Strength is an obvious dump stat, but what full caster can't safely dump strength and still be good?
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Originally Posted by Seraphael
This is at best commonality for all caster, for virtually all non-casters, and not really a weakness at all. In reality though, a Druid has more freedom to dump just about *any* physical stat as wild shape physical stats overrides the Druid's while also having access to Barkskin spell. Having lowish AC (which they arguably don't have) after being knocked out of beast form is again not really much of a weakness. To help further with concentration checks: A level 1 dip into Barbarian would also add Constitution proficiency, while Enhance Ability/Bear's Endurance spell would add Constitution advantage (and more health), or grab Resilient feat.

According to the 5th edition rule, barkskin doesn't care about your DEX, you will get up to AC16. yeah, this is overpower .. take this out. it will ruined my rogue stereotype ..
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