Did you miss the part where I said that I had all the negative interactions in convos for the male characters and all the positive ones with SH? Believe me I am quite aware of romance options in RPGs lol. I am simply stating there is a misbalance atm with SH, actually in patch 3 I had romanced her a couple of times. Now with patch 4, the same exact play through, where I intentionally choose decisions with negative approval for gayle and wyn (which I understand is actual positive approval for Astarion) and they still initiate the conversation for a romance at the party, while I hit every approval conversation but one with SH, which means 1 time in my choices I got a disapproval from her, the rest were all positive, and she was not available. Not to mention I saved before the party, then I went further and got 3 more approvals then tried to close out the party (added to the previous approval conversation ratio) and it was still the same.
I am quite aware of approval ratings and relationships, since I have been doing it since DA:O. I am simply stating it does not make any sense at all, to have complete negative approval for 2 characters, that then want to initiate the romance option simply because they are the same sex, and have the SH option, with all positive approval not. There is a bug or balance issue there.
You say "all positive ones with SH" and only 1 negative but you didn't answer my question what level of approval you were at. You may feel you did everything you could, but the game literally tracks it. If it's not medium, she will turn you down.
I'm not trying to be condescending at all, but what you're describing doesn't add up. If you were playing good, but willfully getting disapprovals for Gale and Wyll, I can already tell you that's not enough. You can skyrocket to Very High approval with Gale by doing every heroic action in the Grove, and just being an ass to him in conversation - when he knows your actions display you are a noble person, isn't going to offset the approval. And on that same note, doing a few of those actions will incur disapproval from Shadowheart.
