Originally Posted by ash elemental
On the topic of spellcaster cheese: the flaming sphere. Enemies seem to view it as a melee combatant, even though the sphere is indestructible. On its own, it doesn't do much damage, so the spell can run out when facing enemies that can heal or have lots of hit points. However, if you have two spellcaster capable of summonign one each, you can just keep sending in new spheres, and if you hide the party, enemies won't have other targets, so they will try to attack the spheres instead and perish in the aura...

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Hi @ash elemental,

Flaming sphere is quite an "overpower" spell indeed - but again, allowed by the engine. But to make it more "cheese" or "cheese^2" (if there is such definition), here some ideas on how to use it.

keep your party at distance, or hidden, as you said, then cast the flaming sphere and start attacking vilains with the sphere and then:
1- vilains will take damage just for standing in the flaming sphere aura at every turn;
2- Vilains will group to attack the flaming sphere, as you are pointing out;
3- "After" the 2nd round though, have your party to start attacking the vilains from range - the vilains will still be focused on the sphere & you keep your party outside the sphere aura.

Optionals, if you have a Druid in the party - then things will get more ugly - try that: have the druid to change into spider and start throwing web on your flaming sphere smile
This is where, I believe you can use the quote "I'm going to burn this place down".

Basically, flaming sphere can distract from the group and attract all vilains to one place (you're in control) - you just need to wait a little that they are fully attracted to it - like a honeypot for mosquitos. And then the player/party comes to play.

That trick works everywhere, even on bullate (or the gith patrol). You just need to corner Bullate where you can get the drow armor as she doesn't run away.

From my view, this process fits in the definition of "cheese" as it's quite easy to repeat the process everywhere in the game. It's just boring to only do that everywhere in the game.

Last edited by Starlights; 21/03/21 04:46 PM.

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