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Right now when we are in conversation, only one who started is able to paticipate and take decisions on behalf of all party members. But this is party based game and every member opinion should be visible, so we can see what they all have to say and perks we can use, roleplaying will be enhanced by including this feature. I have seen "Solasta: Crown of the Magister" do this but in limited way as shown in screenshot here : [Linked Image from i.imgur.com]
I don't know if this is possible but there is no harm in wishing. I'm enjoying game very much and very excited for the future update

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+1 totally agree. I've actually said this very same thing. They will PROBABLY do this eventually since there is a Character Select button during dialogues, but right now it is not working. If they don't do this, I will be very upset.

We NEED to be able to switch between characters and have different dialogue options and allow different characters the ability to use their skills during conversations. So if my Main has better Religion than Shadowheart, I want my Main to use their skill in dialogues. If Astarion has better Deception, I need to be able to use his Deception skill.

Right now, any time I switch between party members they are running around doing whatever while my Main is conversing.

Along these lines, too, the game world needs to pause during these conversations. During the Hag fight, I killed the Hag and was speaking to her corpse. Wyll ran through a poison cloud during the conversation and almost died. I barely noticed he was dying because I heard him gasping and scream in pain. I would have had to either reload or use a revivify scroll because he was stupid enough to run through a poison cloud in order to try to get to where my main was all while I was having a conversation with a dead corpse.

This kind of thing has happened numerous times when dialogues are triggered. Not only are characters not involved in conversations when they should be but they do stupid things like trigger other fights and such while I'm having a conversation. I get that Larian is going for freedom here, that other characters can maybe sneak around while someone is distracted and all, but it hurts the game more than it helps, in my opinion. If one character is involved in a conversation, the whole party should be involved.

I've even had special dialogues skipped because of this. Example: Wyll was in my party, but he never interrogated the goblin captain at the windmill simply because he was sneaking or just a smidge too far away. He was at the bottom of the stairs one time when I defeated the captain, and he didn't interrogate him because he was too far away. If he's in my party, he should have been involved unless I left him somewhere REALLY far away.

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Well , I think this should work like this : If player wants everyone in party to engage then they should start conversation while all members are linked. If they want to sneak and kill/steal or do other stuff while party is in conversation, they should unlink respective members and they will not be able to join in. This will provide more agency to player whilst keeping broad range of conversation options too.

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Originally Posted by Gagandeep Singh
Well , I think this should work like this : If player wants everyone in party to engage then they should start conversation while all members are linked. If they want to sneak and kill/steal or do other stuff while party is in conversation, they should unlink respective members and they will not be able to join in. This will provide more agency to player whilst keeping broad range of conversation options too.

+1 again. Totally agree. In fact, I'm about to post another suggestion about Group Stealth. I was thinking about it, and I don't think Group Stealth is really the answer. Solasta has a Party Toggle Button. You hit that button, the whole party moves together. This is a good button. BG1 and 2 and many of the old games had something similar. If I hit the button and start moving, everyone forms up and rejoins the party. If I hit stealth, everyone stealths. If I unstealth while in party mode, everyone unstealths. If I jump in party mode, everyone jumps.

So similar to how they have Group and Ungroup right now, but make it a button, not a Right Click on each individual person thing. If I click on the Party Mode Button, everyone forms up. If I click on an individual character, they are no longer Grouped and I can do whatever I want with that person all by themselves. Then give me the ability to hold Shift or something and select each party member I want to chain together in my group as well, so that if I want to exclude one person I can do so easily without right clicking and ungrouping them. They could even still leave that functionality in the game so if I have everyone grouped and I want to ungroup someone, just that person, I have the option of right clicking and ungrouping. But for most situations, I should be able to just click on their portrait and they ungroup.

Then, if I want a certain person to be the Group leader, I click and drag their portrait to the left-most position. Boom. Team Leader when Party Mode is selected.

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I don't mind trying Persuasion on the "wrong" character as that's part of how life goes, but there are certain situations where you absolutely need to be able to switch characters.

If there's an arcane mystery or arcane anything.. you need to be able to let the party Wizard deal with it instead of whoever started the dialogue. It's so frustrating when Gale is literally standing right behind you in the shot while you fumble around with -1 Arcana. Same with many Rogue skills that require expertise like Sleight of Hand. Or if you have a Cleric who is especially Insightful, you might want to bring them forth to assess if someone is lying to you or speaking the truth.

I also don't want a mathematical spreadsheet UI of who is numerally best at what to easily always select the best modifier for every check. It's dialogue, not science. Mouseover information at most.

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+1 to both suggestions of the OP


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Yes, that's a good idea.


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