The solution is not to just make the hotbar bigger. The solution is to make menus available as they are needed like Solasta.
We really need to go past the old way system of UIs.
But why?
I dont quite understand why cant we simply have both.
As it was with spell levels ...
There was simple solution to allow people either give any spell level they want into hotbar (old system), or add there all at once with popup menu (new system) ... what was wrong about that?
Why do minority need to subject majority even in times, when all that is needed to satisfy both is adding something new, and JUST DONT REMOVE THE OLD ... :-/
For this many people to be in agreement, that's gotta tell you something.
Well, it may seem like "many", since there is not many people actualy active on this forum, few dozens top ...
If i find you 50 people who believe that Earth is flat ... will that be true?
More does not always mean better.
One more question ... does this rule aply on count of people who likes this idea? :P
You're asking what a spellbook have to do with hotbar but you suggest a button to open the spellbook on the hotbar a few messages earier.
I have litteraly no idea how to explain it to you so you understand. :-/
This is how it feels right now:
My question: How about give to bar a icon, that will open your spellbook.
You: I dont like it.
Me: It dont need to be actual "spellbook" i dont care if you get popupmenu, i just wanted to know if you would like the "all in one" icon.
You: Consumables is not added to spellbook.
Me: ???
You: You are dumm, you were talking about spellbook and now you are asking about spellbook.
Me: ??? ... ???!
Really, if this does not help ... just not even the slightest idea how. :-/
I have to ask 1varangian question again... (you didn't really answered)
Have you ever played BG1&2, Pillars of Eternity, Pathfinder or Solasta..or is your experience solely based on DOS and MMO's?
I did ...
And i shall repeat myself: no, no, no, no, no ... no and no.
Do you need to me answer every single game specificly? :-/
NO i did not play BG1 ... only seen videos.
NO i did not play BG2 ... only seen videos.
NO i did not play Pillars of Eternity ... only seen videos.
NO i did not play Pathfinder ... only seen videos.
NO i did not play Solasta ... only seen videos.
NO i did not play DOS ... only seen videos.
NO my experience in RPG is not based on MMO.
I dont see any difference, but w/e if that is what do you need ...
I still dont understand why do i need to play completely different game, so i can rate UI of game that i curently just played.
I didn't admit that I would be fine with button on the hotbar... I admit that I would be fine with buttons opening something (like in Solasta, PoE, Pathfinder, BG1 and 2, and so on...).
I don't care about hotbar and I don't need one if I have buttons. The thing with "bags" is also tedious and it just require inventory management instead of hotbar management, which is not really more fun.
Well you need to give that button somewhere ...
And whole point of all my replies was just to find compromise.
I know you "dont care about hotbar" that is kinda obvious, if you read title of this topic.
But i do ... and that is why i wonder about a way to satisfly everyone (if possible).
I just hope you dont try to tell me that if icon for spells popupmenu will be floating on exactly same place as it would, if it would be in hotbar ... its somehow sudently better.
